Author: Tom Amburn
Date: 13:11:09 12/01/99
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On December 01, 1999 at 15:32:33, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>Hi,
>
>After checking some lines it is clear that 20 Rd1! is simple and strong.
>Even after 20 ... b5 21 f3! Bb7 22 Kf2 White has a dangerous attack
>on the h-file. Maybe Black's best is Keres' old recommendation 14 ... a5,
>instead of 14 ... Nxb3. Still, I have not much faith in Blacks position.
>
>So 6 ... 0-0 seems to be too risky after all. I have put this on 'minus'
>in my opening book.
>
>Regards, Jeroen
>
>
I thought there was something suspicious about the line! Especially since I
could find no master games, In my view black is totally lost after rd1. It would
be a shame for rebel to lose against a grandmaster because of this type of error
in it's book. I am sure most grandmasters would immediately see the strength of
whites position. thanks for your comments
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>The position after 19 g5 is given by Mikhail Tseitlin and Igor Glaskov
>>in their book "The complete Vienna". Comment after 19 g5:
>>
>>'After 19 ... Rxf6 20 gf Ne6 21 d4 White has a dangerous initiative so
>>it is worth looking at 19 ... Ra6!'
>>
>>So I put the move 19 ... Ra6! in Rebel's book. Maybe your 20 Rd1! might
>>be a refutation of this idea, something I have to check. Anyway, thanks
>>for your comments!
>>
>>Best regards, Jeroen Noomen
>>
>>
>>> Today I defeated my rebel chess computer annoyingly easy, the problem is I am
>>>not sure whatever it was the book that lost or the rebel program. Actually I
>>>could not find the position out of book in any of my databases including my one
>>>million game database. After my move 20. Rd1, Rebel was out of book with a +256
>>>score. A little over five moves later I was forced to resign the thing. I
>>>wonder where whoever created the rebel mvs got the moves for this book? Like I
>>>said I could not find any games in my database.
>>>
>>>note: rebel is out of book after 20. rd1, question is is rebel already lost?
>>>
>>>[Event "?"]
>>>[Site "?"]
>>>[Date "??.??.????"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Thomas Amburn"]
>>>[Black "Rebel10 "]
>>>[Result "*"]
>>>[WhiteElo "?"]
>>>[BlackElo "?"]
>>>[ECO "C27"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Bc4 Nxe4 4. Qh5 Nd6 5. Bb3 Be7 6. Nf3 O-O 7. h4
>>>Nc6 8. Ng5 h6 9. Qg6 Bxg5 10. hxg5 Qxg5 11. Qxg5 hxg5 12. Nd5 Nf5 13. d3
>>>Ncd4 14. Bxg5 Nxb3 15. Nf6+ gxf6 16. Bxf6 Ng7 17. axb3 Re8 18. g4 Re6 19.
>>>g5 Ra6 20. Rd1 d6 21. Kd2 Bd7 22. f3 Bc6 23. Rh3 *
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