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Subject: Re: CCC Members are Probably Very Strong Chess Players and NOT AVERAGE

Author: Baldomero Garcia, Jr.

Date: 21:39:41 12/01/99

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This forum is international, but my experience has to do mostly with USCF rated
players.  An "average" player in the USCF is probably rated 1400-1500.  Chess
Life magazine publishes annually how many members it has and their ratings, and
from what I remember the majority of the players are C, D, E players.

If that's what you're using to determine "average" then you're probably right.
However, if you include all the chessplayers that do not play in chess
tournaments and don't have a rating, then the "average" chessplayer's strength
goes down.

I would say that IQ doesn't have a whole lot to do with how good you are at
chess.  Unless you have learning deficiencies, I don't think you can say that
because someone is "smart" that they are more likely to be better than someone
who is not "smart".

The other issue a lot of people have been talking about is whether an average
player (let's use the 1400-1500 player again) can occasionally beat a top
computer program at 40/120.  I'd have to say that while it may be difficult and
unlikely, it is possible for it to happen.  However, the right things would have
to happen:  the computer would have to choose an opening in which it doesn't
come out so well (I've seen that happen with HIARCS 6.0.  As soon as it's out of
the book sometimes, its eval close to -100.  And I'd ask myself: why would the
computer choose such an opening).  After playing a "bad" opening, the position
would have to be very simplified to the point where an "easy" endgame ensues.
Again, this scenario wouldn't happen very often, as mistakes by the 1400-1500
player would probably crop up more often than not.

I'm rated at 1997 USCF, and I lose quite often against HIARCS 6.0 and several
other programs at ICC.  Maybe when I have some time I'll be able to play a
serious match against it and I'll see how it goes (my guess is that in a 10-game
match the score would probably be 9-1 in favor of HIARCS, if not better).
Baldo.



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