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Subject: Re: More anti-comp play (lower rated wins 4 in a row)

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 09:18:29 12/03/99

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On December 03, 1999 at 11:20:49, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 02, 1999 at 23:21:22, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>This game was one of four almost identical wins by shutka.
>>All four wins were 3/0 and in most games shutka had 2 mins or so left.
>>Shutka has played almost 4000 blitz games rating is 2045. prior to this match-up
>>it was 1990.
>>Chesspartner is chesstiger 12.0e.
>>
>>
>
>I looked at the game, and I have watched this player.  All that Tiger needs
>is some code to prevent blocking the position up so badly...


Actually Tiger has had this kind of problem for years against the human players
here. So I have added a "anti-human" code that prevents blocked positions. I
have no idea if it weakens the program against other programs.

It works rather well, except that it is not turned ON on the computer currently
playing at FICS... I suppose we should turn it on, as there are mainly human
players there...



>For the last week, 'scrappy' has been running on FICS on a P5/133 computer,
>and this guy has played it a bunch of games.  With only (maybe) one draw
>every 20 games or so...  Not that 'crafty' (scrappy handle on FICS) is all
>that good, but it does have some distinct ideas/plans for preventing a blocked
>position which often leads to a draw.  The only problem I haven't tackled yet
>is to recognize book lines that block the position too much (particularly
>things like white pawns at b3/c4/d5/e4 with black pawns at b4/c5/d6/e5.  By
>then the options to prevent blocking things are almost gone, before my eval code
>has a chance to kick in...
>
>I'm not sure that 'not blocking' the position is a good idea, if the opponent is
>a computer, because that tends to avoid drawish positions.  If your opponent is
>then tactically better than you, you might regret keeping it open (for him)...
>
>I will probably put scrappy back on the quad pentium-pro/200 on Monday.  I was
>in the process of upgrading to redhat 6.1 but ran into a video glitch (the video
>card went south for the winter) and by the time the replacement arrived, I was
>in the hospital.


Nothing serious I hope.



    Christophe



>  It has done worse against computers (several PIII/500's and
>600's are beating up on it pretty good) but against humans there hasn't been a
>noticable decrease in wins...
>
>But if you don't specifically prevent blocking the position, it will happen.
>Kingway (IM Kim Commons) is a master at blocking things up.  I'm nearly a master
>at preventing it.  :)
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>>[Event "ICS Game"]
>>[Site "ICS"]
>>[Date "1999.12.02"]
>>[White "shutka"]
>>[Black "chesspartner"]
>>
>>1. d4 d5 2. c3 Nf6 3. Bf4 c6 4. Qb3 e6 5. Bg3 Ne4 6. Nf3 c5 7. e3 Nxg3 8. hxg3
>>c4 9. Qc2 h6 10. Nbd2 a6 11. Be2 Nc6 12. O-O Bd6 13. Rfe1 b5 14. Bf1 O-O 15. e4
>>Re8 16. e5 Bc7 17. Be2 Bb6 18. Nf1 b4 19. a3 b3 20. Qd2 Kf8 21. Ne3 Ra7 22. Nh2
>>Qg5 23. Nf3 Qg6 24. Rac1 Rb7 25. Nh2 Rc7 26. Nf3 Rd7 27. Nh2 a5 28. Nf3 Bb7
>>29. Nh2 Ra8 30. Nf3 a4 31. Nh2 Qg5 32. Nf3 Qd8 33. Nh2 Ba6 34. Nf3 Bc8 35. Nh2
>>Kg8 36. Nf3 Ba5 37. Nh2 Bb7 38. Nf3 Ba6 39. Nh2 Bb6 40. Nf3 Qc8 41. Nh2 Bb5
>>42. Nf3 Bd8 43. Nh2 Bg5 44. f4 Bd8 45. Nf3 Rb7 46. Rf1 Qd7 47. Rf2 Kf8 48. Rcf1
>>Rbb8 49. Re1 Ke8 50. Ref1 Ba6 51. Re1 Bc8 52. Ref1 Kf8 53. Re1 Kg8 54. Ref1
>>Kh7 55. Re1 Ne7 56. Ref1 Qe8 57. Re1 Kg8 58. Ref1 Kf8 59. Re1 Qd7 60. Ref1
>>Kg8 61. Re1 Qb5 62. Ref1 Nc6 63. Re1 Kh7 64. Ref1 Rb7 65. Re1 Bc7 66. Ref1
>>Rbb8 67. Re1 Ne7 68. Ref1 Qc6 69. Re1 Qe8 70. Ref1 Bd7 71. Re1 Bc6 72. Ref1
>>Qc8 73. Re1 Qd8 74. Ref1 Kg8 75. Re1 Ra7 76. Ref1 Ba5 77. Re1 Bb6 78. Ref1
>>Kh7 79. Re1 Bb5 80. Ref1 Rbb7 81. g4 Ng6 82. g3 Ra8 83. Re1 f6 84. Ref1 fxe5
>>85. Nxe5 Nxe5 86. fxe5 Qg5 87. Kg2 Kg8 88. Bf3 Rf8 89. Be2 Rbf7 90. Rxf7 Rxf7
>>91. Rxf7 Kxf7 92. Bf3 Kg8
>>
>>Thanks.



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