Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 18:42:42 12/07/99
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On December 07, 1999 at 02:17:27, Dave Gomboc wrote: >On December 07, 1999 at 01:21:46, Tina Long wrote: > >>On December 05, 1999 at 19:47:14, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On December 05, 1999 at 14:25:36, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>> >>>>it isn't "astounding". >>>>Torstein spoke about Fritz6. >>>>You talk about fritz5.32. >>>>we don't know so far where fritz6 will rank. >>>> >>>>also we don't know if fritz5.32 would react in the same >>>>way than fritz6 in torsteins experience. >>> >>>fritz6 looks tactical stronger and a bit more aggressive tuned >>>a la nimzo. Hard to say whether tactical stronger is derived >>>from the more aggressive tuning or from seeing more... >>>...anyway nothing changed in its eval seemingly, just a few parameter >>>settings as usual... >> >>Hi Vincent, >>I'm not clear what you are meaning here. >> >>"nothing changed in its eval seemingly" are you meaning the Fritz6 engine seems >>to be the same as the Fritz5.32 engine? >> >>"just a few parameter settings" such as we change in CM6k or RebelCentury >>"personalities? >> >>"as usual" that this not-new engine but tweaked old engine is usually what is >>sold? How many versions are the same engine in Fritz? >> >>This worries me, as I (and my Father) spend a large amount on what are sold as >>New ewngines. >> >>Thankyou, >>Tina Long > >Don't be worried. It's just Vincent's standard hyperbole. > >Dave Dave you should go to a world championship, say nothing there and listen when programmers talk without press near them, or dudes that can quote them in a forum. Quote from 1997 from the aegon tournament which after i talked to other programmers was repeated: "My program is using piece square tables. I'm not happy about it. when searching more than 10 ply i can't measure any positional progression. the only progression it makes is seeing a few more shots at testsets". Now look to some of the programs that get their knowledge from pregenerated tables that are not applied to the leafs, but only applied incremental, isn't it AMAZING that when they start searching above those 10 ply depths that they put in all kind of extensions to their programs but don't search deeper anymore positional, why? Because it doesn't matter for their program! Just using the older version of their program they would search at least 2 to 3 ply deeper! Vincent
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