Author: blass uri
Date: 22:26:31 12/07/99
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On December 07, 1999 at 21:42:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On December 07, 1999 at 02:17:27, Dave Gomboc wrote: > >>On December 07, 1999 at 01:21:46, Tina Long wrote: >> >>>On December 05, 1999 at 19:47:14, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >>> >>>>On December 05, 1999 at 14:25:36, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>>> >>>>>it isn't "astounding". >>>>>Torstein spoke about Fritz6. >>>>>You talk about fritz5.32. >>>>>we don't know so far where fritz6 will rank. >>>>> >>>>>also we don't know if fritz5.32 would react in the same >>>>>way than fritz6 in torsteins experience. >>>> >>>>fritz6 looks tactical stronger and a bit more aggressive tuned >>>>a la nimzo. Hard to say whether tactical stronger is derived >>>>from the more aggressive tuning or from seeing more... >>>>...anyway nothing changed in its eval seemingly, just a few parameter >>>>settings as usual... >>> >>>Hi Vincent, >>>I'm not clear what you are meaning here. >>> >>>"nothing changed in its eval seemingly" are you meaning the Fritz6 engine seems >>>to be the same as the Fritz5.32 engine? >>> >>>"just a few parameter settings" such as we change in CM6k or RebelCentury >>>"personalities? >>> >>>"as usual" that this not-new engine but tweaked old engine is usually what is >>>sold? How many versions are the same engine in Fritz? >>> >>>This worries me, as I (and my Father) spend a large amount on what are sold as >>>New ewngines. >>> >>>Thankyou, >>>Tina Long >> >>Don't be worried. It's just Vincent's standard hyperbole. >> >>Dave > >Dave you should go to a world championship, say nothing there and listen >when programmers talk without press near them, or dudes that can quote >them in a forum. > >Quote from 1997 from the aegon tournament which after i talked to >other programmers was repeated: > > "My program is using piece square tables. I'm not happy about it. > when searching more than 10 ply i can't measure any positional > progression. the only progression it makes is seeing a few more > shots at testsets". If the programmer was not happy with it then the natural thing to expect is that he is going to change it. This quote is from 1997 so I do not believe that the programmer did nothing to change it. I also do not believe a top program in 1997 was based only or mainly on piece square table. There are many things that you cannot evaluate by piece square tables(for example passed pawns) and it is possible that some fast searchers evaluate things that you did not think to evaluate. Uri
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