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Subject: Re: How is Rebel-Tiger12 doing it ? Examples in PGN

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 06:41:54 12/08/99

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On December 08, 1999 at 09:28:28, Bernhard Bauer wrote:

>On December 08, 1999 at 09:01:59, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On December 08, 1999 at 08:43:44, Bernhard Bauer wrote:
>>
>>>On December 08, 1999 at 08:01:56, boyons wrote:
>>>
>>>>Why many people here like to compare chess program that is not available
>>>>to the general public like Tiger12?. For me, it is not fair because others
>>>>have no chance to justify your argument.
>>>
>>>Because they want to show that they have something that others don't have.
>>>It's like driving a porsche.
>>>They are the ELITE.
>>
>>This is a silly remark.
>
>You are a beta tester, right?

Sometimes, yes. So? Is this elitist? Should beta testers shut up, so nobody gets
information about new programs?

>There is nothing elitist about sharing findings about
>>new programs, beta or final.
>
>No, but praising such a thing through several month becomes more and more
>funny.

The praising was in the games played and posted. What's the problem?

>>>They don't bother a primitive DOS interface and their benchmarks will be
>>>always excellent.
>>
>>False... Mchess and Rebel are being used and loved.
>>
>Your "false" remark refers only to the first part of the sentence, or to the
>second part too? Anyway DOS is dead.
>
>>> They are the beta testers and they like you to cry
>>>"when can I get that wonderfull program"? and will tell you "soon".
>>>Have you seen one mail regarding holes or insufficiencies of Tiger12?
>>
>>Yes, I posted a few...
>
>I don't remember.

Your problem, and one that doesn't make you right.

>>>First when a progam is available to the public it shows it's real value.
>>>Don't trust the beta testers, you have to do your benchmark yourself with
>>>your own applications, as always.
>>>
>>>Kind regards
>>
>>Kind thanks, Enrique
>>
>>>Bernhard
>
>BTW it's the beta testers job to praise the product. They are *not* independent.

"Beta testers job" is not to praise anything but to find bugs and give opinions.
Beta testing and propaganda have nothing in common. But if results are good,
what do you propose us to do? Keep them under the rug?

So tell me: do you propose dead silence until a program is delivered
commercially? What do you have against people (whoever, it couldn't matter less)
posting games, so others can get an idea of new things that are coming? Only the
"Porsche" syndrome of inflated egos?

Bernhard: being the intelligent person you are, you managed to put together a
ton of nonsense.

Enrique

>Kind regards
>Bernhard



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