Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 08:19:10 12/09/99
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On December 09, 1999 at 02:50:39, Lonnie Cook wrote:
>On December 09, 1999 at 02:32:05, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>
>>A better publicity would be for such a machine to play simultaneous match
>>against humans (including Kasparov and others) and computers. Better still, take
>>on 10 players in Chess, 10 in GO, 10 in Chinese Chess, and 10 in checkers.
>
>Martin,
>No ... read what I am saying ... IBM is playing massive headgames. The seduction
>of the human mind and heart through tension, imagination PLUS GO has no where
>ben perfected as chess algorithms and its much harder to do as its much more
>complicated than chess boundaries.
>
>Chinese chess prob the same problem but not as bad.
>
>NOW checkers, draughts thats another story THAT has been proven to beat the
>best, Chinooks I believe. Vin will probably correct me as he programs a pretty
>strong draughts program
right checkers is a simple american variant of the european (polish rules)
draughts games. My big friend Marcel Monteba kicks butt of any draughtsprog.
differences in rules between checkers and draughts (polish rules
as played in netherlands, france, russia, senegal, poland):
- draughts is 10x10 checkers 8x8
- draughts has 20 stones checkers a lot less 12 or something
- draughts capturing is forced, and you need to take the
longest capture. in checkers you may chose what capture you take
- in draughts capturin back is possible with normal stones.
in checkers YOU MAY NOT CAPTURE BACKWARDS!
this is very important drawback of checkers. capturing back is
a very important thing in draughts! that changes positional rules by
a lot
- if you capture a long string in draughts and get over the promotional
square you don't get during the capture a queen. you don't get any queen.
only if you STOP a sequence on the 10th row then you get awarded a queen.
Those rules make up for a hell of a different game!
>>
>>
>>On December 09, 1999 at 00:51:34, Lonnie Cook wrote:
>>
>>>TO all,
>>>I think it will! I think IBM's grand scheme of things is to get the momentum
>>>going like in the last Match with GK only this time it will be much bigger. A
>>>grudge match for the humans, a much faster computer, transient whispers of human
>>>intervention for DB, more people online, millions more AND he stands to profit
>>>from it all ... IBM, massive publicity.
>>>
>>>They keep saying it will NOT be used as a chess machine but little by little if
>>>they let trickles of propaganda out they can squeeze the public till they pop!
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