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Subject: Re: How many plies in chess game before hash table have some sense?

Author: Daniel Clausen

Date: 13:05:54 12/09/99

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Hi

On December 08, 1999 at 17:22:13, William Bryant wrote:

>
>>Correct.  Here is the mother of all positions to test hashing on, from
>>Fine's "Basic Chess Endings" position number 70:
>>
>>
>>/k/3p/p2P1p/P2P1P///K/ w
>>
>>if hashing works, you will get to 30 plies instantly.  If it doesn't, you
>>won't get to 15.
>>
>>
>>>
>
>_instantly_?
>
>As I have "improved" my move ordering my responst to this test hash slowed
>somewhat.  I get to 18 plies "instantly" (less than 1 second"),
>23 plies by 33 seconds, 24 plies by 55 seconds, and find the answer at a depth
>of 24 plies in 125 seconds.  It takes me nine minutes to actually get to 30
>plies.

Then you should be happy since compared with my engine yours is blindingly
fast. ;)

22  ( 1/ 3)  49.32  +1.24  KA1-B2 KA7-A8 KB2-A1 KA8-A7 <HT>
22  ( 3/ 3)  76.18  +1.24  KA1-B2 KA7-A8 KB2-A1 KA8-A7 <HT>
23  ( 1/ 3)  131.53 +1.24  KA1-B2 KA7-A8 KB2-A1 KA8-A7 <HT>
23  ( 2/ 3)  472.77 +2.16  KA1-B1 KA7-A6 KB1-C2 KA6-B6 KC2-D2 <skipped>
23  ( 3/ 3)  472.80 +2.16  KA1-B1 KA7-A6 KB1-C2 KA6-B6 KC2-D2 <skipped>

I think the reason it takes ages compared to Crafty is more dependent on the
replace
strategy in the HT than move ordering. But in my case a bug is even much more
likely. :)

Kind regards,
 -sargon



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