Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Who Say's GM's don't lose to Low rated Players??

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 14:26:59 12/09/99

Go up one level in this thread


On December 08, 1999 at 16:41:24, John Warfield wrote:

>
> One of the Arguments used by those who advocate that Programs are not GM
>Strength is that Programs lose to 2200 players or less, whereas sopposedly GM's
>don't. I want to debunk this view by presenting this game played at the national
>open where six time U.S Champion Walter Browne gets crushed by a 2070!! Player.
>There are many other such games. Just where people are getting the ideal that
>grandmasters don't lose to lower rated players escapes me completely.
>
>
>[Event "U.S Open"]
>[Site "U.s "]
>[Date "1999.12.08"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "GM Walter Brown "]
>[Black "Lawrence Stevens	"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[WhiteElo "2500"]
>[BlackElo "2046"]
>[ECO "D20"]
>
>1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. e4 e5 4. Nf3 Bb4+ 5. Bd2 Bxd2+ 6. Nbxd2 exd4 7.
>Bxc4 c5 8. Rc1 Nc6 9. Bb5 Nge7 10. Rxc5 Bg4 11. Qa4 O-O 12. O-O a6 13.
>Bxc6 Nxc6 14. Rd5 Qf6 15. Re1 Rfd8 16. Qa3 Be6 17. e5 Qe7 18. Rd6 Rd7 19.
>Ne4 Rad8 20. Qc5 Nxe5 21. Rxd7 Nxf3+ 22. gxf3 Qxd7 23. Qg5 Kf8 24. Nc5
>Qe7 25. Qe5 Qd6 26. Nxe6+ Qxe6 27. Qxe6 fxe6 28. Rxe6 d3 29. Re1 d2 30.
>Rd1 Kf7 31. Kf1 Kf6 32. Ke2 Kf5 33. Rg1 d1=Q+ 34. Rxd1 Rxd1 35. Kxd1 Kf4
>36. Ke2 h6 37. h3 g6 38. b3 h5 39. Ke1 Kxf3 40. Kf1 b5 41. Kg1 g5 42. Kf1
>b4 43. Kg1 g4 44. hxg4 Kxg4 45. Kg2 Kf4 0-1

There is always an exception that confirm the rule. Sometime a strong player
just does not play at is best precisely because he feel somewhat bored to play
againts a clearly inferior player. Like the story of the race between the rabbit
and the turtle. Of course the win exist, but, it is a win againts the GM or it
is a win against the lazy rabbit? This arises the problem of when and where you
are what you are.  Sometimes, in alesser level, we experience the same playing
againts "weak" prorams; we just cannot concentrate enough as much we think we
are going to win anyway and then...
Fernando



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.