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Subject: Re: Humans beating computers

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 00:23:19 12/10/99

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On December 10, 1999 at 02:04:19, Chessfun wrote:

>This is a similar subject to I already posted.
>
>Shutka at fics record against Chesspartner:
>After 3 more wins the last 24 hours.
>
>Record for shutka vs. chesspartner:
>                            wins     losses     draws
>                rated         60         29         0
>              unrated          0          0         0
>
>Statistics for chesspartner(C)
>          rating     RD      win    loss    draw   total   best
>Blitz      2185     24.7    1682     173     118    1973   2411 (23-Nov-99)
>Standard   2372     59.6      36      14      15      65   2494 (20-Nov-99)
>Lightning  2178     42.5     134      33       4     171   2192 (03-Dec-99)
>Wild       ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>Bughouse   ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>Crazyhouse ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>Suicide    ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>
>
>Timeseal   : On
>
> 1: ChessPartner 4.21, Engine: Chesstiger 12.0e
> 2: Pentium 233 , 128 MB , Windows 2000 RC2
> 3: This is the final release, hangs should have been fixed now.
> 4: If it still hangs, and it is not a communication failure, please let me
>know.
> 5: http://www.lokasoft.nl/uk/
> 6: The machine the program runs on is my mailserver/domain controller,
> 7: and the program is set to run at idle priority. Thus if you
> 8: win,you just may have been lucky :)
>
>
>
>Record for shutka vs. scrappy:
>                            wins     losses     draws
>                rated          0         62         3
>              unrated          0          0         0
>
>Statistics for scrappy(C)
>          rating     RD      win    loss    draw   total   best
>Blitz      2468     32.3     526     187     159     872   2538 (24-Nov-99)
>Standard   2385     45.2     142      42      42     226   2460 (01-Sep-99)
>Lightning  2585     48.6     131      40      23     194   2725 (23-Nov-99)
>Wild       2375     50.3      43      42       3      88   2390 (18-Nov-99)
>Bughouse   ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>Crazyhouse ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>Suicide    ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>
>
>Timeseal   : On
>
> 1: Crafty v17.5 (4 cpus)
> 2: ALR quad P6/200, 256mb + some 5 piece endings
> 3: now run by hyatt.  please message him with questions, etc.
> 4: finger crafty for details on obtaining source and executables
> 5: enormous (1.5M game) opening book
> 6: scrappy is about 1/2 as fast as "crafty"
> 7: _absolutely_ no crafty clones.  using a crafty
> 8: clone will result in a lifetime +noplay
> 9: computer operators:  4 blitz or 2 standard games
>10: in a row, max, or risk +noplay
>
>
>It would appear some type of anti-human setting needs to be turned on in
>chesspartner this guy is killing it, he has over one third of it's losses
>attributable to him alone. Also it is clear that whatever crafty has to prevent
>this works.
>
>This post is mainly for all the people that believe to beat a computer you must
>be using another computer.
>Thanks.


I have just asked Lex to turn "anti-human" mode ON in the Rebel-Tiger engine. I
think it will make a difference.

If you want to make your point even heavier, maybe I can connect my 386sx20MHz
to the ChessPartner account.

You'll see more humans beating a computer.

What we are trying to check in our experiment is the quality of the connection
to the Internet Chess Servers, not the strength of the program.



    Christophe



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