Author: Christopher R. Dorr
Date: 06:41:44 12/10/99
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On December 10, 1999 at 01:23:14, Chessfun wrote: >On December 09, 1999 at 23:13:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On December 09, 1999 at 17:26:20, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>On December 09, 1999 at 10:25:53, Christopher R. Dorr wrote: >>>> >>>>I feel that is is quite disrespectful to make a statement such as the above >>>>about an obviously powerful player, based simply on one game. One of the points >>>>of the poster was that strong players *do* lose to 2200 and below players. It >>>>doesn't diminish the strength of the GM. they can have bad days, and 2100-2200 >>>>USCF players can play quite well sometimes. I myself (2200 on ICC, 2150 USCF) >>>>have beaten several GM's at blitz (including Roman), and drawn 2650 GM's and >>>>beaten 2500 IM's at tournament times. It doesn't mean they are 'weak' or 'over >>>>the hill'. It means they are human, and fallable, and that a 'pretty good' >>>>player is capable of exploiting this on occasion. >>>> >>>>Christopher Dorr >>>>USCF Master >>> >>>Chris, can you please tell me why you sign you letter USCF Master with a rating >>>noted as being 2150 USCF. No disrespect meant or intended, but please explain >>>the system of when is someone considered a master and when do they use it in >>>there writing. >>>Thanks. >> >> >>In the USCF, once you reach an established rating of 2200 or better, you get >>a "life master" certificate. And the title 'master' is never revoked. IE >>you will find some older GM players with ratings under 2500. Once the title >>is earned it is never taken away. Belle was the first computer to be awarded >>the USCF Life Master title/certificate in 1983 in New York. > >Please excuse my ignorance again but, does this mean that Chris would not only >hold the title "Master" but also the title "Life Master" or is it not therefore >the same thing. >Thanks. Bob is correct. The USCF offers several 'Masters' titles, including National Master, Senior Master, and Life Master. The Life Master title (which I posess) explicitly states that regardless of future rating, that title still applies to the holder. According to the Larry King (when he was Assistant Director of the USCF) USCF, all holders of any of these titles are entitled to call themselves 'USCF Master' As well, traditionally those who have earned a Masters title (even one solely based on rating like the National Master title) have continued to be referred to as a 'Master' even when their rating drops below 2200. As Larry Evens has said numerous times "Once a Master, always a Master." GMs and IMs are the same way. There are FIDE GMs out there with FIDE ratings of below 2300. Their rting can drop, but they can never lose the title once it has been earned. Chris
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