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Subject: Re: Humans beating computers

Author: Chessfun

Date: 20:38:05 12/11/99

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On December 10, 1999 at 08:22:05, Chessfun wrote:

>On December 10, 1999 at 03:23:19, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 10, 1999 at 02:04:19, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>This is a similar subject to I already posted.
>>>
>>>Shutka at fics record against Chesspartner:
>>>After 3 more wins the last 24 hours.
>>>
>>>Record for shutka vs. chesspartner:
>>>                            wins     losses     draws
>>>                rated         60         29         0
>>>              unrated          0          0         0
>>>
>>>Statistics for chesspartner(C)
>>>          rating     RD      win    loss    draw   total   best
>>>Blitz      2185     24.7    1682     173     118    1973   2411 (23-Nov-99)
>>>Standard   2372     59.6      36      14      15      65   2494 (20-Nov-99)
>>>Lightning  2178     42.5     134      33       4     171   2192 (03-Dec-99)
>>>Wild       ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>Bughouse   ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>Crazyhouse ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>Suicide    ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>
>>>
>>>Timeseal   : On
>>>
>>> 1: ChessPartner 4.21, Engine: Chesstiger 12.0e
>>> 2: Pentium 233 , 128 MB , Windows 2000 RC2
>>> 3: This is the final release, hangs should have been fixed now.
>>> 4: If it still hangs, and it is not a communication failure, please let me
>>>know.
>>> 5: http://www.lokasoft.nl/uk/
>>> 6: The machine the program runs on is my mailserver/domain controller,
>>> 7: and the program is set to run at idle priority. Thus if you
>>> 8: win,you just may have been lucky :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Record for shutka vs. scrappy:
>>>                            wins     losses     draws
>>>                rated          0         62         3
>>>              unrated          0          0         0
>>>
>>>Statistics for scrappy(C)
>>>          rating     RD      win    loss    draw   total   best
>>>Blitz      2468     32.3     526     187     159     872   2538 (24-Nov-99)
>>>Standard   2385     45.2     142      42      42     226   2460 (01-Sep-99)
>>>Lightning  2585     48.6     131      40      23     194   2725 (23-Nov-99)
>>>Wild       2375     50.3      43      42       3      88   2390 (18-Nov-99)
>>>Bughouse   ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>Crazyhouse ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>Suicide    ----    350.0       0       0       0       0
>>>
>>>
>>>Timeseal   : On
>>>
>>> 1: Crafty v17.5 (4 cpus)
>>> 2: ALR quad P6/200, 256mb + some 5 piece endings
>>> 3: now run by hyatt.  please message him with questions, etc.
>>> 4: finger crafty for details on obtaining source and executables
>>> 5: enormous (1.5M game) opening book
>>> 6: scrappy is about 1/2 as fast as "crafty"
>>> 7: _absolutely_ no crafty clones.  using a crafty
>>> 8: clone will result in a lifetime +noplay
>>> 9: computer operators:  4 blitz or 2 standard games
>>>10: in a row, max, or risk +noplay
>>>
>>>
>>>It would appear some type of anti-human setting needs to be turned on in
>>>chesspartner this guy is killing it, he has over one third of it's losses
>>>attributable to him alone. Also it is clear that whatever crafty has to prevent
>>>this works.
>>>
>>>This post is mainly for all the people that believe to beat a computer you must
>>>be using another computer.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>I have just asked Lex to turn "anti-human" mode ON in the Rebel-Tiger engine. I
>>think it will make a difference.
>
>Good, I will post games as soon as he plays it again.
>Thanks


I posted the previous score as being:
Record for shutka vs. chesspartner:
                          wins     losses     draws
                rated         60         29         0
              unrated          0          0         0

Current is now:
Record for shutka vs. chesspartner:
                            wins     losses     draws
                rated         61         30         0
              unrated          0          0         0

I did not see the two games one win for each and neither has them in their
history.
Thanks.


>>
>>If you want to make your point even heavier, maybe I can connect my 386sx20MHz
>>to the ChessPartner account.
>
>>You'll see more humans beating a computer.
>>
>>What we are trying to check in our experiment is the quality of the connection
>>to the Internet Chess Servers, not the strength of the program.
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe



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