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Subject: Re: Chesspartner on FICS: 3 time rep bug

Author: Chessfun

Date: 14:35:17 12/13/99

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On December 13, 1999 at 17:30:29, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:

>On December 13, 1999 at 16:54:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 13, 1999 at 15:29:59, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On December 13, 1999 at 15:21:47, James B. Shearer wrote:
>>>
>>>>       I won two games on time vrs Chesspartner on FICS yesterday because of
>>>>some sort of bug in the three time rep code.  In both cases, in positions which
>>>>either were or were about to be three time reps, Chesspartner simply stopped
>>>>moving and eventually lost on time.
>>>>       I believe you have to request a three time rep draw, it is not
>>>>automatically granted by the server.
>>>>                          James B. Shearer
>>>
>>>
>>>Was this as fever ?, if yes I have those games normally with the three fold rep
>>>the server I think calls it, I thought those two games were strange that
>>>chesspartner lost on time.
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>The server doesn't call it, because it would violate the rules of chess.  The
>>side repeating the position for the 3rd does not _have_ to claim a draw, any
>>more than the side making the last move to satisfy the 50-move rule draw has to
>>claim a draw...  it is optional.  If you want a 3-fold rep draw, or a 50-move
>>rule draw, you have to send "draw" after repeating the position...
>
>	That is not following the rules either (but of course the servers can implement
>the rules in a way which is convenient for them, even if they differ from
>regular tournament practice).
>	If the position is to be repeated for the third time after you making your
>move, the correct procedure to claim the draw is:
>1. Write down your move in your score sheet.
>2. Claim the draw (without making the move over the board!).
>	If the claim is invalid, you are forced to make the move you have written down,
>and in any case it is part of the game.
>	Claiming the draw is optional, but by making the move over the board you are
>implicitly choosing to not claim the draw, leaving that choice for your
>opponent.
>	If the position has just repeated three times and it is your turn to move, you
>can claim the draw.
>	The general policy is that only the player who has the move on the board can
>claim the draw.
>José.

I believe you are totally correct. 1) and 2) Is a little hard on a server
however.:) I always thought the server called it after the third rep. As noted
by Dr. Hyatt and yourself I stand corrected.
Thanks.






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