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Subject: Re: EIDOS, Fritz, and Piracy

Author: Chessfun

Date: 22:13:22 12/14/99

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On December 15, 1999 at 00:59:25, Michael Cummings wrote:

>On December 14, 1999 at 23:41:02, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On December 14, 1999 at 23:24:21, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>>
>>>Piracy? The whole purpose of offering a demo is to have as many people test it
>>>right? I bought Fritz6 with hard cash only to find out that there is a demo with
>>>what appears to be THE engine. Understand how I feel?
>>
>>The purpose of a demo is to enable people to try out a program before they have
>>to buy it.  Someone who is interested but not sure if they want to plunk their
>>money down can check it out, start liking it, and decide they want to buy it.
>>Or conversely (though I think this happens less) they may decide that it's not
>>the product for them.
>>
>>It is certainly _not_ the case that the purpose of a demo is to allow people to
>>rip out parts of its compiled code and use those parts in different
>>applications.  So no, I don't understand how you feel.  I just understand that I
>>feel bad that I brought up Eidos in the first place.  Like the people who worked
>>to make Fritz 6, I write software too, and having people steal your work is a
>>pretty bad feeling.
>>
>>Dave
>
>Now let me get this strait. A demo is bought out and I assume Chessabase knows
>about this Demo. And Fritz6 from what I hear is more than just an engine update.
>So if they bring this out then if the engine can be taken out and used without
>any alteration of the program, without any crack, then what is the big deal,
>they must have known that this was going to happen, this is not stealing
>anything.
>
>This reminds me of the Rebel 10 release then how Ed dropped the price a couple
>of weeks later. Are you people more upset that some can get the engine for
>nothing, or that you payed money for it when if you waited you could have got
>the engine for nothing like so many people seem to be stating now.
>
>And I assume that the engine is not the same, but who knows.
>
>All I can say is stop worrying about chessbase and play with whatever program
>you have and how ever you got it.

Michael,
        What happens it seems is the engine Fritz 6 light installs into the
chessbase engines folder. Naturally with it there it can be used forever as an
engine. Also it installs as a normal demo program in the Fritz 6 gui which I
heard will only play 20 odd moves. Right now I am running eng v eng nunn Fritz
5.32 v 6 light blitz speeds and seems that it plays a good game. Only just
started score w1 l0 d2 for Fritz light winning game 1.

The engine size as reported is very close in size to the actual versions german
and english that have been released. The download was german in which case it
would appear slightly larger in size.

The case with rebel was slightly different as far as I recall it expired after a
month.
Thanks.





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