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Subject: Re: tiger - DIEP 1-2 (both with book at icc server)

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 05:22:40 12/15/99

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On December 15, 1999 at 08:05:26, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 15, 1999 at 07:43:53, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On December 15, 1999 at 07:24:00, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>Next week at the 20th Thorsten Czub starts playing tiger without
>>>book even against DIEP.
>>>
>>>Tiger is playing at the ICC server shortly, so i directly matched it
>>>against DIEP at 60 30 level.
>>>
>>>Statistics for RebelTiger         On for:   40     Idle:    0
>>>RebelTiger is currently involved in a match against crafty(C).
>>>
>>>          rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
>>>Blitz       2836          7     1     1     9
>>>Standard    2110  [3]     1     2     0     3
>>>
>>> 1: ChessPartner 4.21: Engine ChessTiger 12.0e
>>> 2: P300A, 128 MB, Win NT 4.0
>>> 3: This is the almost final release of Rebel-Tiger
>>> 4: http://www.lokasoft.nl/uk/ or http://www.rebel.nl
>>> 5: The PC this program runs on is also used for other work
>>> 6: If you experience problems or hangs, please send a message
>>>
>>>So that's a celeron 300A, which in 90% of the times is running at 450Mhz
>>>so i assume tiger runs at 450Mhz too.
>>
>>I don't want to sound as if I'm just trying to defend Tiger here, but I wouldn't
>>make this assumption for starters without asking, and second, line 5 states the
>>machine is used for other purposes as well. From what I read of Lex's posts,
>>this is pretty common. I'd be careful about it's results. you might try
>>contacting Lex, and set up a time (to remove excuses if Tiger loses), as well as
>>ask if his CPU is overclocked. Many people have serious reservations about
>>overclocking CPUs. I know I do, and the K6-2/350 (what I have) is supposed to be
>>ok to overclock up to 400. I don't.
>>
>>                                      Albert Silver
>
>So 2 defeats of Kasparov, from which one is because kasparov resigns in a
>drawn position which i would have drawn by just playing further, second
>defeat of kasparov is even more pathetic, as kasparov plays an openingsline
>which in his own book is said to be losing.
>
>So that is convincing,

Eh??? Who on earth said this was convincing?


> but 2 clear defeats against Tiger, where
>tiger shows everywhere typical tiger play (attacking d5 and f6 in
>first game, getting bishop against knight and not caring for its own
>pawnstructure in the second game, and a typical Patzer Nb5 move from
>tiger in the third game) at at least faster hardware are not?
>
>So you write again an message WITHOUT ANALYZING THE GAME.
>
>Man you're sick.

Yep, that's me. Sick ol' Albert. In case you hadn't noticed, all I said was it
was wrong to assume it had been overclocked to 150 extra Mhz, and that you might
not have been getting the best of Tiger. My proposal to get in touch with Lex,
wasn't because I thought the games had NO value, but to guarantee the best
conditions so as to make it more interesting. What happens if someone begins
saying that Tiger was handicapped in those games? It will be hard to refute the
argument, and will cast a shadow on the results. Better to make sure that can't
happen, don't you agree?

                                      Albert Silver

>
>SEE HOW IT PLAYS!
>
>First game it can attack weak pawns. So it attacks weak pawns and wins.
>Second and third game it doesn't see weak pawns at opponents side so
>it loses.
>
>What's wrong with that?



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