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Subject: Re: Stupid chess programs!!! And that goes for most of them!

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 09:13:59 12/15/99

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On December 15, 1999 at 12:05:52, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On December 15, 1999 at 11:44:52, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>Take the following position and setup on your PC:
>>
>>4b3/1r4k1/p3pr2/1p1pPp2/PPpP1Pp1/2P3Pp/K6P/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Every human would play 1.a5 without thinking, but your chessprogram plays
>>1.exf6+??? It may be wrong to call a program stupid but.....
>>
>>Torstein
>>
>>( So far I have only tried it on Fritz 6 and Hiarcs 7.32 )
>
>Torstein,
>
>you are pushing the cart before the horse.  Making hasty generalizations, etc.
>Not all programs would capture the Rook.  I've had time to try only Zarkov 4.30
>(an awesome program, by the way) and it says, after only a couple of seconds,
>that 1.a5!! is the best move.  I kept it on for several minutes and 1.a5 is
>still its PV.  There must be some other programs that are just like Zarkov :))
>
>The position that you picked out is the standard AI demonstration about AI
>stupidity (oxymoron, ain't it?), but it won't hold water for long.  Think
>positively, please.
>
>Djordje

Its still sort of interesting that most programs need a lot of time to
"evaluate" this position. They obviously, and probably rightly so in most other
positions, gives a material a high evaluation.

...and by the way, I think it will hold water for a while still.

Torstein




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