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Subject: Re: Stupid chess programs!!! And that goes for most of them!

Author: John Stanback

Date: 12:01:58 12/15/99

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On December 15, 1999 at 12:05:52, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On December 15, 1999 at 11:44:52, Torstein Hall wrote:
>
>>Take the following position and setup on your PC:
>>
>>4b3/1r4k1/p3pr2/1p1pPp2/PPpP1Pp1/2P3Pp/K6P/8 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Every human would play 1.a5 without thinking, but your chessprogram plays
>>1.exf6+??? It may be wrong to call a program stupid but.....
>>
>>Torstein
>>
>>( So far I have only tried it on Fritz 6 and Hiarcs 7.32 )
>
>Torstein,
>
>you are pushing the cart before the horse.  Making hasty generalizations, etc.
>Not all programs would capture the Rook.  I've had time to try only Zarkov 4.30
>(an awesome program, by the way) and it says, after only a couple of seconds,
>that 1.a5!! is the best move.  I kept it on for several minutes and 1.a5 is
>still its PV.  There must be some other programs that are just like Zarkov :))
>
>The position that you picked out is the standard AI demonstration about AI
>stupidity (oxymoron, ain't it?), but it won't hold water for long.  Think
>positively, please.
>
>Djordje

I tried this on the latest Zarkov and it chooses exf6 at all iterations
(up to 5 minutes or so, i didn't try longer than that).  I've never had
any special code for this kind of situation so I'm surprised that 4.30
would play a5.  Perhaps you played through some variations and Zarkov's
learn feature kicked in?


John



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