Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 05:48:03 12/16/99
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On December 16, 1999 at 07:26:30, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: Uli, >Hi Frank, > >i think that publications about amateur computer chess is a difficult point. It >seems to me that only a tiny minority of people (like us) is interested in this. >A few weeks ago, Marcus from ChessBits has put this question in his forum. Even >there it turned out that most people want to know about Fritz & Co. Of course, >the magazine editor has to account for the wishes of the readers. So, you will >have still some 'propaganda' to do. Yes this is right. But when the press more wrote about amateur chess the people have more interest, we have many examples. Look the program CSTal, I think not stronger than 2400 ELO. 5 or more free amateur programs play stronger. The programmer from CSTal can give Thorsten Czub the order of knights. I play not with CSTal but I see many games from CSTal. Thorsten can play matches against ... CSTal - AnMon CSTal - Crafty CSTal - SOS CSTal - Comet CSTal - Phalanx CSTal - Insomniac CSTal - Little Goliath CSTal - Patzer The editor Marcus Kästner make a good work. The articels are impressive and good. I hope in the next time more about amateur chess. Marcus ask me for 2 months if I can wrote an article about amateurchess. I say OK and give my word, but I have not enough time at the moment. I make this later. Uli, important is that the amateur programs are well know. So the programmer can later sell his programs when the results against other TOP Programs are good or the style (Chess System Tal is a very good example) is good. And here I say, no more to many pages in the chess computer magazine about top program x ! A big mistake that the newspager not wrote about the "new" free program SOS. The reason is, that SOS not run under other GUIs or why I can not read about SOS ? Shredder, King, Ferret, Fritz, Hiarcs, Tiger, Junior, Nimzo, MChess, Rebel and other programs are good and I belive that the differece is not measurable. You can play tousend tournaments and in tournament A win MChess and in tournament B Tiger. Important is the style and not blitz games (for the newspaper). OK important is furthermore the GUI, but we have good GUIs. It is time wasting for the programmer to programming a new GUI. Christophe can sell his program (engine is good enough, I mean without GUI) for the same price. 100 GUIs is nonsense. In the future I think is the best way ... A engine or more monney for a engine with a GUI ! A GUI without engine which run under other GUIs is not conformance with time. I can not understand the programmer which play under WinBoard with his engine and sell a GUI without an engine for WinBoard, this is nonsense ! And another not all programs which at the moment are free are in the future free, I think ! When Michael Borgstädt sell his program is this OK because he must not give all versions for free. And importent is that the WinBoard engines run under the professional GUIs perfectly. So can other programmer sell his WinBoard engines on a disk. I think that many people give 100,-- DM for the strong WinBoard Engines by John Stanback or for Patzer with his BitBases (endgame databases, you know that :-) ). Uli ... The Millennium WinBoard USA 2000 ultra platinium mega parcel :-) with the WB Engine Zarkov WB Engine Insomniac I hope that other programmer can get money and get the deserve reports. I hope John read this and James and make a disk and sell his programs. Many people of the world have interest and the programs runs under the best GUI which we have. OK Rebel has for me a super GUI, but I can not play with other engines under the DOS GUI. Or Shredder has a very impressive GUI, I like this GUI, but we have not a WinBoard Shredder engine for other GUIs. I think the programmer will get more money so I can not understand this. My interest is, that many programs run under 1-4 good GUIs ! The user can not play under 5 GUIs and have a favorite GUI :-) >BTW, the only real exception which I know is the CSVN magazine 'Computerschaak'; >they report a lot about amateur events, programs and authors, and also have >technical contributions. Well, unfortunately it's in Dutch. But as a German you >can get used to it. Yes but I can not understand all :-)) Kind regards Frank
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