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Subject: Re: Diep vs. Tiger: the untold truth...

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 06:34:44 12/16/99

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Albert Silver, or whoever u may be.

I see only a game you drew dude and 2 aborted games at move 1.

How in the world can someone operate tiger at 3 to 4 seconds a move?

For DOS programs nearly everyone needs 8 seconds a move. for fritz6
dudes need 4 to 6 seconds a move. You make it in 3 seconds a move!

Are you using rebel tiger for windows?
What is your name?

Move  SubtleOne          Secret
----  ----------------   ----------------
  1.  Nf3      (0:10)    Nf6      (0:00)
  2.  c4       (0:06)    c5       (0:00)
  3.  Nc3      (0:04)    Nc6      (0:00)
  4.  g3       (0:03)    d5       (0:00)
  5.  cxd5     (0:03)    Nxd5     (0:00)
  6.  Bg2      (0:03)    Nc7      (0:00)
  7.  O-O      (0:05)    e5       (0:00)
  8.  d3       (0:04)    Be7      (0:00)
  9.  Nd2      (0:03)    Bd7      (0:00)
 10.  Nc4      (0:03)    O-O      (0:00)
 11.  Bxc6     (0:04)    Bxc6     (0:00)
 12.  Nxe5     (0:04)    Be8      (0:00)
 13.  Be3      (0:04)    Ne6      (0:00)
 14.  Rc1      (0:07)    b6       (2:43)
 15.  Qb3      (0:39)    Bf6      (1:22)
 16.  Nf3      (1:49)    Bc6      (1:17)
 17.  Ne4      (1:41)    Be7      (1:46)
 18.  Ne5      (1:02)    Bxe4     (0:07)
 19.  dxe4     (0:05)    Qc7      (1:59)
 20.  Nf3      (0:41)    Qb7      (1:49)
 21.  Qc2      (1:58)    Rad8     (0:00)
 22.  Rfd1     (0:39)    Rfe8     (0:07)
 23.  e5       (2:02)    h5       (1:27)
 24.  Qc4      (0:37)    b5       (0:46)
 25.  Qc2      (1:34)    h4       (0:00)
 26.  gxh4     (0:42)    c4       (0:45)
 27.  Ng5      (1:22)    Nxg5     (0:42)
 28.  hxg5     (0:11)    g6       (0:28)
 29.  a4       (1:03)    Qc8      (1:13)
 30.  axb5     (0:53)    Rxd1+    (0:07)
 31.  Rxd1     (0:17)    Bxg5     (0:20)
 32.  Bxg5     (2:30)    Qg4+     (0:00)
 33.  Kf1      (0:58)    Qxg5     (0:00)
34.  Qxc4     (2:37)    Rxe5     (0:00)
 35.  Rd7      (1:36)    Qf5      (0:00)
 36.  Rd8+     (1:17)    Kg7      (0:00)
 37.  Qd4      (0:12)    Qb1+     (0:58)
 38.  Kg2      (0:05)    Qe4+     (1:03)
 39.  Qxe4     (0:05)    Rxe4     (0:28)
 40.  Kf3      (0:52)    Rb4      (0:00)
 41.  Rb8      (0:15)    a5       (0:17)
 42.  b6       (0:18)    Rxb2     (0:14)
 43.  b7       (0:07)    a4       (0:26)
 44.  Ke4      (0:35)    Kf6      (0:32)
 45.  Kd5      (0:16)    a3       (0:32)
 46.  Kc6      (0:21)    Rc2+     (0:31)
 47.  Kd6      (0:10)    Rd2+     (0:18)
 48.  Kc5      (0:06)    Rb2      (0:23)
 49.  h3       (0:17)    a2       (0:30)
 50.  Ra8      (0:14)    Rxb7     (0:13)
51.  Rxa2     (0:05)    Rd7      (0:22)
 52.  Ra3      (0:12)    Rd2      (0:34)
 53.  Rf3+     (0:02)    Ke6      (0:24)
 54.  Re3+     (0:14)    Kf6      (0:11)
 55.  Re4      (0:25)    Kg5      (0:00)
 56.  Kc4      (0:12)    Ra2      (0:25)
 57.  Kb3      (0:15)    Ra5      (0:24)
 58.  Rd4      (0:13)    Rf5      (0:25)
 59.  f3       (0:17)    Rf4      (0:04)
 60.  Kc3      (0:06)    Rxd4     (0:18)
 61.  Kxd4     (0:07)    Kf4      (0:15)
 62.  h4       (0:05)    Kg3      (0:17)
 63.  Ke5      (0:05)    Kxh4     (0:22)
 64.  Kf6      (0:05)    g5       (0:16)
 65.  Kf5      (0:05)    Kg3      (0:21)
 66.  Kxg5     (0:10)    Kf2      (0:11)
 67.  f4       (0:06)    Kxe2     (0:20)
 68.  f5       (0:05)    Kd3      (0:19)
 69.  Kf6      (0:06)    Ke4      (0:19)
 70.  Kxf7     (0:03)    Kxf5     (0:19)
       {Game drawn because neither player has mating material} 1/2-1/2



Are you using the windows version of tiger?

Because tiger for dos can't be used at 1 computer.


On December 15, 1999 at 18:16:43, Albert Silver wrote:

>Here was an astonishing game between Diep running on a Dual Celeron 550 with 128
>Mb Ram, though one can safely assume they are overclocked to 800 Mhz, which
>gives a grand total of 1600 Mhz, or close to 5 (!) times more computing power
>than its K6-2/350 (+64 Mb Ram) equipped opponent, Chess Tiger. Note that this is
>not Chess Tiger's normal opening book and it was out of book after a mere 12
>moves. The time control was 30 minutes plus a 5 second increment (as the game
>was played manually).
>
>                                      Albert Silver

I can't find this game in the history

>[Event “ICC 30 5 u”]
>[Site “Internet Chess Club”]
>[Date “1999.12.15”]
>[Round “-“]
>[White “Secret”]
>[Black “SubtleOne”]
>[Result “0-1”]
>[ICCResult “White checkmated”]
>[WhiteElo “2633”]
>[BlackElo “2489”]
>[Opening “Sicilian: Taimanov (Bastrikov) variation”]
>[ECO “B47”]
>[NIC “SI.40”]
>[Time “12:06:15”]
>[TimeControl “1800+5”]
>1.e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nc6 5. Nc3 Qc7 6. g3 a6 7. Bg2 Nf6 8.
>O-O Be7 9. Re1 O-O 10. Nxc6 dxc6 11. e5 Rd8 12. Qf3 Nd5 13. h4 Qa5 14. Bg5 Bxg5
>15. hxg5 Nxc3 16. bxc3 b5 17. Qxc6 Bd7 18. Qxa8 Rxa8 19. Bxa8 Qxc3 20.
>Be4 Be8 21. Bd3 Bc6 22. Rad1 g6 23. Re3 Qb2 24. a3 Bd5 25. Rde1 Kg7 26. Rd1
>a5 27. Kf1 Qxa3 28. Bxb5 Qa2 29. Bd3 a4 30. Kg1 a3 31. c4 Bc6 32. Bf1 Qb2
>33. Ree1 a2 34. Ra1 Qc3 35. Bg2 Bxg2 36. Kxg2 Qxc4 37. f4 Qc2+ 38. Kf3 h6
>39. gxh6+ Kxh6 40. Kg4 g5 41. fxg5+ Kg6 42. Rf1 Qe2+ 43. Kh3 Kxg5 44. Rf4
>Qb2 45. Rff1 Kg6 46. Rae1 Kg7 47. Kg4 Qg2 48. Kh4 Qh2+ 49. Kg4 Qh7 50. Rf4
>Qb1 51. Rff1 Qb2 52. Kg5 Qd4 53. Kh5 Kg8 54. g4 Qb2 55. g5 Kg7 56. Kh4 Qb4+
>57. Kh5 Qb3 58. Kg4 Qc2 59. Ra1 Qe4+ 60. Kh3 Qb4 61. Rg1 Qc3+ 62. Kh4 Kg6
>63. Rae1 Qd4+ 64. Kh3 Qd3+ 65. Kg4 Qf5+ 66. Kh4 Qf4+ 67. Kh3 Kh5 68. Rgf1
>Qg4+ 69. Kh2 Kh4 70. Kh1 Qh3+ 71. Kg1 Qg3+ 72. Kh1 Kh3 73. Re2 a1=Q 74. Rxa1
>Qf3+ 75. Kg1 Qxe2 76. Ra3+ Kg4 77. g6 Qe1+ 78. Kg2 Qd2+ 79. Kf1 Qc1+ 80. Ke2
>Qxa3 81. g7 Qf3+ 82. Ke1 Qg3+ 83. Kd2 Kf4 84. Kc2 Qxg7 85. Kb3 Qxe5 86. Kb4
>Ke4 87. Kc4 Qc7+ 88. Kb4 Kd4 89. Kb3 Qc3+ 90. Ka4 Qb2 91. Ka5 Kc5 92. Ka6
>Qb6# {White checkmated} 0-1



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