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Subject: Re: winboard engines under Fritz6

Author: James Robertson

Date: 13:58:51 12/16/99

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On December 16, 1999 at 08:38:03, Georg v. Zimmermann wrote:

I agree completely; the Fritz interface has some serious flaws. While the engine
_does_ know how much time it has left, it does not know how much its opponent
has left. This can create problems when offering/accepting draws, etc.

Unless the engine is specially designed it does lose the learning information.
This is a problem with long matches....

My program is very reliant on a book that fits its style. Fritz can get in the
way of this if one is not careful.

There are many good things too, but I really wish Chessbase would redesign the
communication protocol.

James


>On December 15, 1999 at 22:02:15, brian robson wrote:
>
>>Successfully installed all available free winboard engines except:
>>SOS, Dragon, Lchop and Newrival. All the engines are able to use their own
>>opening books except fortress, anmon and zchess. Currently running an automatic
>>tourney of all the engines plus fritz6 fritz 5.32 and hiarc7.32.This is a great
>>feature of Fritz GUI. You can just sleep off while allowing the tourney to
>>continue on his own.
>
>I hope you realize that the fritz winboard adapter is seriously flawed.
>
>1.) The engines do not know how much time they have left. Image you as a human
>play a game where you know that you have average 10mins/10moves while your
>opponent knows the exact time control: 60mins/game. You would play too fast in
>the midlegame and loose on time in the endgame ... thats what happenes.
>
>2.) A lot of engines loose all the hashtable-data because fritz sends the "new"
>command + the whole game before every new move.
>
>3.) This does stop the learning feature of many engines as well.
>
>4.) opening books are important for some engines, especially fortress for
>example.
>
>5.) You sure that Fritz and friends get the same amount of HT than the other
>engines ? I'm not.
>
>... and other things I probably forgot.
>
>> Imagine if winboard were to have this feature!!!!
>
>Why don't you run a few games between 2 engines while at sleep (if you only want
>to play 1-3 games between every engine your result isn't gonna be very reliable
>anyway ;-) ) and then set it up for the next two engines.... there goes your
>RoundRobin tourney...
>
>
>>Have a nice day.
>
>You too!
>
>Georg



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