Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:19:42 12/16/99
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On December 16, 1999 at 21:17:46, Dann Corbit wrote: >A similar thread brings up an interesting question, "What is AI?" > >An old test was supposed to be that if we are playing a remote opponent we can't >tell if it is a human or a machine. I think that can probably be achieved now >(especially if we throw in a bit of randomness). Actually a computer probably can't pass at chess. Computers find mates way too quickly. They make stupid mistakes in known 'trap' positions. Yes you could kludge a fix for the mates too quickly, but it is not hard to catch a computer with that kind of analysis... unfortunately. I doubt that is what Turing had in mind, of course. But this was a discussion I had in 1984 with a non-computer-scientist. And he uncovered Cray Blitz just this way. :) > >Then what tends to happen is that we say, "That's not really artificial >intelligence. After all, it's just a machine, so it _can't_ be." We simply >move the target and we are safe from the encroachment of the machine into "our" >domain. > AI has two common definitions: (1) doing something that requires intelligence by a human to do. IE play the game of chess. But as soon as someone sees how easy this is to do, this gets changed to: (2) doing something that requires intelligence by a human to do. And it has to be done in a way that is very similar to the way the human does it. IE in chess, if a human considers 100 positions to choose a move, then the program has to do approximately the same. (2) is often used when it becomes obvious that (1) was much easier than anyone once thought. :) >If (for instance) I was playing some opponent using Winboard and I only knew it >was one of: >"Kasparov" >"Deep Blue" > >I would have no way of guessing which was which, since either one would pound my >stuffings out effortlessly. Yes you would. Give them both a mate in 15 position. DB will find it way quicker. :) > >So the question stands, "What is AI?" and along with it, the related question, >"Are chess programs intelligent?" Depends on which side of the fence you sit on. :)
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