Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 14:41:18 12/17/99
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On December 17, 1999 at 01:03:26, Dann Corbit wrote: >On December 17, 1999 at 00:17:48, robert michelena wrote: > >>Peter, first of all, my conflict is with people who,while professing that they >>are "average" (not IM or GM strength), can nevertheless defeat commercial >>programs at their strongest settings. >> >>If you aggree with that observation, fine. But don't be confused by the >>passion which is boiling over. I have never stated categorically that a player >>who is an IM or GM cannot on occasion defeat a program. >From: >http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?82891 >"However, like the lonely scientist who stated that the world is indeed round, >and not square, as all those around him cried, I will continue to state what I >consider to be a fundamental truth: non grandmasters cannot beat commercial >programs at their strongest settings." > >>As for the tournament you mentioned, correct me if I am wrong, but I believe >>that the human competitors are either IMs or GMs. No? >No. Here are the headers from the games that were posted: >[Event "Aegon"] >[Site "DEN Haag AEGON"] >[Date "1996.04.15"] >[Round "4"] >[White "Steinwender, D."] >[Black "COMP Shredder"] >[Result "1-0"] >[ECO "D00"] >[WhiteElo "1850"] <<<<<<<<<< LOOKIE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!! >[PlyCount "33"] >[EventDate "1996.??.??"] > >[Event "Aegon"] >[Site "DEN Haag AEGON"] >[Date "1996.04.??"] >[Round "2"] >[White "Jongsma, L."] >[Black "COMP Chess Genius"] >[Result "1-0"] >[ECO "A29"] >[WhiteElo "1960"] <<<<<<<<<< LOOKIE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!! >[PlyCount "107"] >[EventDate "1996.??.??"] > >> >>My pig is learning how to land at night. >Two pigs were laying in the barnyard on a hot August afternoon. >The fist pig says, "Man! I'm bacon!" >The second pig answers, "Yeah, I never sausage heat!" Speaking as a participant in the last AEGON tournament, I spoke with some other participants and we agreed that we were most afraid of the non-titled players who had lots of anti-computer experience. They are low-rated players against other humans, but against computers they avoid the computers' strengths and play against their weaknesses, so when you lose a game against these people, you look like an idiot. bruce
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