Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 18:28:10 12/17/99
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On December 17, 1999 at 15:32:44, robert michelena wrote: >My main conflict is with people who continue to insist that average strength >players can defeat commercial programs playing at the strongest setting. > >Now, I realize that for many who post here, english is not their main language, >so I have been understanding. > >Let me repeat. My contention, and I see nothing in the posted record to >indicate otherwise, is that NO NON GM strength (or IM strength player if you >insist) can defeat a commercial program at its strongest setting. > >There are those who insist that human players of average, non master strength >can do so on a regular basis. If you agree with that and if the players in the >AEGON tournament were average players, then so be it. Why don't you look at the PGN Enrique posted. It had the names of the players that beat the computers. It had their ratings. You can easily go to the current FIDE list to confirm that they are not on there as GM or IM players. Why not simply do your homework? Enrique took the time to find two games and post them with full PGN headers. He cited the tournament. You can go look up the 1996 Aegon event to see the list of participants, since you don't want to believe that there were anything but GM/IM humans playing. Rather than believing, ever heard of doing the research to find the truth? Surely as a "3rd year law student" you have some experience doing this, assuming you are at a reasonable law school. Just check out the details. Quit the hand-waving. Ask _any_ programmer here if he believes that he can lose a game to a <2000 rated chess player. Ask _any_ programmer here if he believes he can lose to a non-IM/GM player. Ask _any_ programmer here if he believes that he can't possibly lose a game/1 minute game vs an IM or GM or even a Fide master. I'll answer for my program. Yes it can lose to any of those. Not often. But I would certainly not bet my house on a 10 game match. I'm a bit wiser than that.
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