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Subject: Re: Multiple decision changes in eval from ply 7 or 8 forward

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 20:01:41 12/19/99

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On December 18, 1999 at 22:01:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 18, 1999 at 19:21:13, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On December 18, 1999 at 09:15:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>This has already been done.  To prevent the oscillation you mention.  You can
>>>simply 'fudge' up the score for the first move, and adjust alpha/beta to match,
>>>or you can leave the score for the first move alone, but search all remaining
>>>moves with score+N, score+N+1.  I tried it many years ago, but didn't like it.
>>>If you believe your eval, then you believe that +.05 is worth something...
>>
>>It seems like you could save a LOT of time doing this in some positions... that
>>isn't worth it? Do you have some statistics?
>>-Tom
>
>
>No statistics, just observations.  We played a bunch of games using Cray Blitz
>on a VAX vs various (at the time) commercial chess machines like the supercon
>and so forth.  shifting the window does make the search go faster, and it helped
>in those positions where you are oscillating between two developing moves like
>Nf3 and Nc3 (for example).  But in middlegame/endgame positions, I often found
>myself wishing (after playing over a game with the shift turned off) that it
>had played the move that was only slightly better score-wise...
>

>Null-move already effects scores at the root enough...

In DIEP i only see in the endgame now and then root score changes.
Not so in the middlegame.

No difference there.




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