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Subject: Re: new computer chess effort

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:09:03 12/21/99

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On December 21, 1999 at 16:49:18, Greg Lindahl wrote:

>On December 21, 1999 at 09:35:04, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>Greg, you keep repeating that FPGAs have memory and that this solves the memory
>>problem.
>
>I'm just brainstorming. You seem to think that when I put out an idea, that I am
>claiming that I know the answer, or that I have a degree in FPGA design. I
>don't.
>
>I pointed out that there are 2 obvious objections to the "it can't be done
>without memory" claim. The first is that FPGA boards come with SRAM and that
>works fine with algorithms such as FFTs, and the second is that an eval-only
>chip doesn't need the huge memory that a full-up chess chip uses.
>

And there is another bad assumption.  I use one 64kb array _just_ to figure out
whether one side has an outside passed pawn or not.  one 64kb array for
detecting a left-most distant passer and another 64kb for a rightmost distant
passer.  and two more for potential distant passers via majorities.  That is
256kb before we even get started.  I would probably need 1-2 megs of memory to
store the patterns I used in my eval.

that was _megs_ not _kilobytes_...



>Since I don't have any design in mind at all, just a couple of SWAGs (which
>stands for "stupid wild-ass guess"), I could care less if memory is or isn't a
>killer problem. I'd just like to think about a fast chess engine.
>
>>This shows that you have not done one single little bit of logic design in your
>>entire life. And if you did, you probably got an F in it.
>
>Can you please stop with this kind of language? I'm getting tired of your abuse,
>name-calling, and straw-man attacks.
>
>>I think it's sad that you're clinging to this silly fact to save your entire
>>project here.
>
>And here I thought I was having fun brainstorming. Dang.
>
>-- g



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