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Subject: Re: Diep vs. Tiger - Vincent does not keep his word

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 21:10:43 12/21/99

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On December 21, 1999 at 15:48:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On December 21, 1999 at 11:35:12, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 21, 1999 at 09:33:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>Incredible that this line is 11 moves in book. you told me your book sucked?
>>>Big liar!
>>
>>
>>Vincent, you'd better watch out what you say.
>>
>>You are yourself a liar and a cheater.
>>
>>
>>Remember that Thorsten is waiting for your program for more than one week?
>>Remember that I have challenged you? You have accepted that Diep plays a match
>>against Tiger, Diep will have access to his own book, and Tiger will play
>>WITHOUT BOOK.
>
>Yes thorsten didn't manage to ftp DIEP's book. i'm gonna email it now
>this evening.
>
>I guess you DID NOT READ YOUR EMAIL RECENTLY ?


YOU SAID THE MATCH SHOULD START ON DECEMBER 20th IN YOUR LAST EMAIL

Thorsten is still waiting for your program.



>>Instead of sending your program to Thorsten, you keep on desperately playing
>>Tiger on the chess servers in the hope to find a weakness in it.
>
>Note that subtleone matches DIEP and not the other way around.


I don't control him. What do you think? That every person playing with Tiger on
a chess server is controlled by me?

What I know for sure is that some days ago you played against Tiger on FICS
repeatedly. Just after that we decided to play a public match. Strange...



>>Be a man Vincent, and send your program to Thorsten RIGHT NOW, and let's see if
>>Tiger sucks as you said.
>
>Was already busy with that, but apart for that, proof has already been
> shown...


Proof of what?

That you have the biggest mouth?



>>What kind of excuse are you going to find now? Your Auto232 still does not work?
>>Remember that you told me that for you, great programmer, it is less than one
>>day of work? So it should be OK by now?
>
>but the windows version isn't ready yet... ...just like Rebel for windows
>is already getting worked at 2 years now or so...


When your engine will be as strong as Rebel we will talk about this again.



>>Too bad, you spend your days on FICS and ICC trying to beat Tiger.
>
>FICS? i'm hardly on FICS. i'm on icc though.


You were playing on FICS against Tiger.

Do you want Lex to publish all the games?

It's not a shame. You can just admit that you have played Tiger and tried to
find a weakness. I only find this very funny.



>I remember you would still play a big match there against Crafty with
>tiger at a PII300 against crafty quad xeon... ...but you never showed up...


The match will take place. As far as I know Bob and I have not agreed on a date
so far. So what's the problem?

Maybe you need Crafty to help you a little bit?



>>So send your program to the tester we both agreed on and let's see what happens.
>
>You're writing here crap in the newsgroup without reading your email.


I have written this on Thursday Dec 21. Your last email stated that Thorsten
would have your program on Monday Dec 20.

He is still waiting for it...



>>And for your information, I have no idea what the guys from CA have put in their
>>book. I have provided the engine ONLY, and they have decided to include THEIR
>>OWN BOOK in the product.
>
>I don't know what book subtleone is using, but either the dude choses
>lines himselve. Just checkouthis game on ICC. All very good lines he plays.
>So if the CA book is just crap as what some weirdo's say, then this guy is
>a big liar. He's getting great out of book against DIEP there all games
>he plays.


And the shows goes on. We have another innocent guy called a "liar" by dear
Vincent.



>>I have no control on this book. But once again, like in almost every post of
>>yours, you have no clue about what you are talking about.
>
>I don't blame you. You can't play chess, so you don't know how your
>program plays, nor how it gets out of book.


I totally agree that my program plays chess much better than me. Tiger on K6-450
is probably 1000 elo points above me.



>>Sorry that this book hurts your poor little thing. To help you a little bit,
>>should I disable the book on the chess servers too?
>
>Hehe, just like rebeltiger on icc server. It first said: PII300A with
>10mb hashtables, suddenly it says PII266 with 2mb hashtable... ...looks
>like a big cover up to me...


What's the problem?

We have changed the computer and changed the default hash table size, so what?

Can you explain what this covers please?



>>Send you program now, or go back to something you can handle. You might publish
>>some interesting papers in "Advances in Computer Tic Tac Toe, vol. 8" if you
>>study this game carefully.
>
>Obviously you never are busy with chess.


This one is funny. Thanks Vincent! :)



    Christophe



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