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Subject: Re: The millenium does not start till 2001!! 2000 is last year of this mill

Author: Charles Unruh

Date: 17:43:24 12/24/99

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On December 24, 1999 at 12:52:39, John R. Menke, Sr. wrote:

>On December 24, 1999 at 12:40:55, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On December 24, 1999 at 12:00:44, Keith Ian Price wrote:
>>
>>>On December 24, 1999 at 10:38:33, Albert Silver wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 24, 1999 at 10:09:34, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>The millenium does not start till 2001!!  2000 is last year of this millenium.
>>>>>
>>>>>2000 is just the cap, 2001 is the beggining man i want to blow up the world i'm
>>>>>tired of people refusing to acknowledge the obvious ughhh!  Merry X-mas
>>>>>>MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!
>>>>
>>>>Only if the calendar started with a 1. If on the other hand Year 1 represented
>>>>the first year to pass (like a baby's first birthday), 2000 is indeed the
>>>>beginning of the second millenium. The debate is in fact all based on this. I
>>>>for one believe that Year 1 was the first year to pass, therefore the year 2000
>>>>is the beginning of the third millenium after Christ.
>>>>
>>>>                                       Albert Silver
>>>
>>>I must admit I am rather surprised at this statement, Albert. You are normally
>>>quite logical in your premises. Of course the calendar started with 1. People
>>>didn't have computers back then, so starting with 0 didn't make sense to them.
>>>And equally, of course year 1 represented the first year to pass (like a baby's
>>>first birthday), so, of course the millenium starts with 2001. If year 1 was the
>>>first year to pass in the 1st millenium, year 2001 will be the first year to
>>>pass in the third millenium. The New York Times editorial staff is having a
>>>battle over this right now. Their headline on January 1, 1901 was "Welcome to
>>>The 20th Century". Some of the editors want to have a similar "Welcome to the
>>>New Millenium" headline on January 1, 2000. But the others ask how will they
>>>explain the 99-year century?
>>>
>>>kp
>>
>>Maybe the other editors you mention would be good at software development, where
>>details matter.  "When to party?" is about as deep as this issue gets, so
>>whatever the answer, it's not going to matter too much.
>>
>>Dave
>
>I tend to concur with Albert and Dave, for no other reason than that's the way I
>like it. Such things are by mutual agreement, or not, and obviously the nots
>have it! Is 10-5=5? That's by mutual agreement too. We could equally well say
>that 10-5=6 because we want it to indicate "inclusiveness", although that would
>upset many mathematical applecarts, require recalculation of the date of the big
>bang, etc. Not that logic matters very much here, it's all for fun, as I see it.
>Cheers!
>--JRM

The dark ages have returned!



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