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Subject: Re: How to judge?

Author: John Warfield

Date: 17:38:59 12/27/99

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On December 27, 1999 at 14:57:09, Ed Schröder wrote:

>How to judge?
>
>>Posted by walter irvin on December 27, 1999 at 12:26:07:
>
>>rebel century is extremely strong ,i dont play it as much as some of the other
>>ones i have for 2 reasons .1.rebel never lets me get anything going unlike
>>hiarcs,fritz,crafty ect . vs them i feel like i have a chance till the end .2.
>>rebels style is devoid of brilliat moves or moves that ever leave the position
>>unclear .instead its like the program has a roll of duct tape and he slowly
>>but surely wraps you up till you have no options left .for me rebel is the >hardest to beat ,in fact so far its the only one i have not beat .
>
>At least once a week I receive email in similar wordings. That's of course
>very nice stuff to read but what puzzles me is Rebel's progress through the
>years in this respect.
>
>I mean this: I am a 1800 player, very bad in tactics but with a positional
>understanding of 2000, maybe a bit more. How to judge progress in Rebel's
>positional understanding every time I add new chess knowledge?
>
>Has Rebel improved in playing humans since version 8,9,10 and now Rebel
>Century? To answer this question precise you have to realize that hardware
>has improved too during the years and people tend not to play old versions
>which makes it even more difficult to judge its progress.
>
>Since times I use the following guide-line to decide which version is best:
>- test sets (about 1000 positions) 30% as a first impression.
>- auto232 results (30%)
>- my personal impression based on my own style and feelings (40%) this
>includes the GM challenge games as well.
>
>How do other programmers decide which version is best? and maybe more
>important which criteria is involved?
>
>I also am curious on opinions if Rebel Century is clearly better than let's
>say Rebel8 when the subject is playing style which is something different
>than playing strength (my opinion and view).
>
>Ed


Hi Ed


  Personally I think you have made a huge improvement with Rebel Century. I have
been a fan, and customer of rebel since rebel 6 came out.  Frankly I did not see
that much difference between rebel 6 and rebel 8, But I think the improvement
first came with number 9 version, And now Century is yet another Leap,  quite a
substantial one. I hope that in the future you decide to Resume testing rebel on
ssdf, I think it would probally top the list, or come very close. I think it
already tops the list as far as the attrativness of play is concerned. Rebel -
Tiger may be stronger than Rebel Century but I still believe that Century's
style is more fun to play with.



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