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Subject: Re: How to judge?

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 01:39:04 12/28/99

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>Posted by Dann Corbit on December 27, 1999 at 15:38:11:
>
>In Reply to: How to judge? posted by Ed Schröder on December 27, 1999 at
>14:57:09:
>
>On December 27, 1999 at 14:57:09, Ed Schröder wrote:
>[snip]
>How to know which is best?
>
>I think Dr. Hyatt's approach is a good one -- play a bazillion games on the net
>against quality opponents.  I see that Chris W. and Vincent D. have also
>followed this strategy.  Since the new improvements to Rebel also allow this
>kind of competition directly, I expect that you can gather a massive amount of
>data with free testers at will.  You can see how a change in Rebel performs
>against top computers.  You can see how a change in Rebel performs against top
>humans.  I suggest you may write a parameter driven version of Rebel (or an
>engine that can write personalities to disk based upon a set of criteria) and
>then run one hundred games with the parameter at one setting, change the setting
>and run another hundred.  Using this sort of technique, you can find out what
>settings work best against various types of competition.  I think that will work
>very much better than your contest, since the attempts at producing good
>settings by others will be redundant and unscientific, for the most part.
>
>By using the net as a resource, you double your compute power.  By selling
>copies of Rebel that can use the net as a resource you multiply your compute
>power by the number of sales (e.g. you can gather a huge number of games from
>the net and calculate strengths and weaknesses against rated opponents and you
>don't even have to run them).
>
>Suggestion:
>Have Rebel automatically annotate the network games with settings information so
>that you can glean the effectiveness of various settings.

That's indeed one of my plans. Play games on ICC automatically 24 hours a
day, 7 days a week. The new Rebel outlook is good for it with its automatic
play on servers. One account for playing against humans and another one
for playing comps only.

Ed




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