Author: Graham Laight
Date: 06:21:25 12/29/99
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On December 29, 1999 at 09:10:50, Michael Cummings wrote: >On December 29, 1999 at 07:02:45, Graham Laight wrote: > >>Excuse me, but following this kind of logic, you'll never be able to select >>anything in your life! >> >>Every competition is flawed. >> >>Gary Kasparov might not be the best human player - for all sorts of reasons. >> >>But if you finally want to have a champion, you have to have some sort of >>competition, and you have to accept that the rules are going to favour some >>competitors over others. >> >>-g > >It is very simple. you need to play many games, but the time you would spend >playing these games needed, another version of the program comes out and they >dump the older version for the newer one to test. So you will get results from >the data you have obtained. > >And yes competitions are flawed. France won the soccer world cup to say they are >the best, but they are not ranked number one. I can play 1000 CM6K games of >various personalities and then play them again and get totally different >results. (and I have !!!) > >So how many games does it take ? 10, 100, 500, 1000, 10000 ???? > >I have played top programs against each other and had one win many games in a >row, only to have the program win the other half of the games in a row. > >Usually the cream will rise to the top. But chess programs require much more >games than the SSDF play in my opinion. But again this is a selective argument. > >How many people are willing to say that Deep Blue is better than Kasparov 100% >of the time if they play a series of five game matches ???? > >As you say, there are rules and things are ranked following these rules. I am >not debating that, I am debating the validity of the results and the ranking of >the results. > >Logic shows you have competition to attain a winner, but logic also shows that >the winner is not always the best. > >How many times have someone or some team won something only to know that yes >they did great on the given day, but they are not really the best. Agreed. When I thought about it afterwards, I must admit that my original post was a little on the pedantic side! -g
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