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Subject: Re: ENRIQUE WE NEED YOU!

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 10:02:56 12/29/99

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On December 29, 1999 at 12:42:34, Bertil Eklund wrote:

>On December 29, 1999 at 11:23:12, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On December 29, 1999 at 10:51:57, James A. Tackett wrote:
>>
>>>     I remember when Computer Chess Reports was published once a year, and
>>>Enrique Irazoqui was its editor.
>>
>>1982 and 1983. Red telephone, Honda 750, Mephisto II and III, and Scisys MKV
>>above all. Sometimes I feel like winding my watch backwards.
>>
>>>The usefulness and quality of that publication
>>>does not have a contemporary counterpart.  I would venture to say that myself
>>>and others would be willing to fork over the cost of a new chess program if we
>>>could have access to a publication of that quality today.  So many of the
>>>posters on CCC seem to be unaware of the following facts:
>>>
>>>     1]   the raw strength of the program is no loger an issue for 99.99% of us.
>>>
>>>     2]   what maters to the vast majority of us is:
>>>
>>>              a]  the style and variety of play.
>>>
>>>              b]  the ability of the program to be handicaped to yield
>>>                  a challeging and interesting opponent without throwing away
>>>                  material or making silly moves.
>>>
>>>              c]  the ability of the program to analize our games in a manor
>>>                  that allow us to find our mistakes and thus increase our
>>>                  understanding of chess.
>>>
>>>     The main problem I find in reading CCC postings is the great diversity of
>>>opinions regarding the "truth," and there is no easy or reliable way to sort
>>>through this maze of information.  We need one objective, reliable reviewer to
>>>focus on the above issues.  If I can find one, just tell me where to send the
>>>money!
>>
>>Only a few weeks ago I was hesitating about starting a new tournament, which is
>>my way of getting an impression about programs. Few people seemed interested and
>>I dropped the idea. A post like yours may be the excuse I need. Thanks! :)
>>
>>Enrique
>Hi!
>
>Please start a new tournament with the new programs, we all want to know if
>Shredder4 is the best program as claimed on the Millenium-site.

I don't think it is.

> Is the new
>Junior6 better then Junior5? What about Fritz6 is it better than F5.32?

I don't think so either.

>Rebel-Century can it play against computers too? Win-Tiger is it even better
>then the Dos-version?

Yes, by 10 or 20 points.

> Nimzo7.32 was it out of luck in the latest SSDF-list?

Maybe a bit low, but not significantly.

>Is it true that Diep is the best positional program?

Who says? :)

I would like to play a tournament. It would be at 40/40 on 2 PIII-500 with 256MB
RAM. The difference in performance between a P500 and a P600 or 700 doesn't
justify the price, I think. Next problem: I could play it with Tiger, Shredder
4, Fritz 6, Junior 6, Hiarcs 732 and Nimzo 732, 20 game matches for a total of
300 games, which takes about a month. The other possibility would be to add
Crafty 17.4 and Genius 6.5, but playing 10 game matches and a total of 280
games. What do you think? 20 game matches are more accurate, but including more
programs is tempting, even if I don't think that they could win the torunament.

>I had a Suzuki motorbike and now I have a Suzuki car but it was more funny with
>the bike!

I had 28 bikes, all of them much more fun than any cars. But cars are more
comfortable and practical, and I can smoke while driving (never tried this on a
bike), so it is cars nowadays. :(

Enrique

>Regards Bertil



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