Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 10:02:56 12/29/99
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On December 29, 1999 at 12:42:34, Bertil Eklund wrote: >On December 29, 1999 at 11:23:12, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>On December 29, 1999 at 10:51:57, James A. Tackett wrote: >> >>> I remember when Computer Chess Reports was published once a year, and >>>Enrique Irazoqui was its editor. >> >>1982 and 1983. Red telephone, Honda 750, Mephisto II and III, and Scisys MKV >>above all. Sometimes I feel like winding my watch backwards. >> >>>The usefulness and quality of that publication >>>does not have a contemporary counterpart. I would venture to say that myself >>>and others would be willing to fork over the cost of a new chess program if we >>>could have access to a publication of that quality today. So many of the >>>posters on CCC seem to be unaware of the following facts: >>> >>> 1] the raw strength of the program is no loger an issue for 99.99% of us. >>> >>> 2] what maters to the vast majority of us is: >>> >>> a] the style and variety of play. >>> >>> b] the ability of the program to be handicaped to yield >>> a challeging and interesting opponent without throwing away >>> material or making silly moves. >>> >>> c] the ability of the program to analize our games in a manor >>> that allow us to find our mistakes and thus increase our >>> understanding of chess. >>> >>> The main problem I find in reading CCC postings is the great diversity of >>>opinions regarding the "truth," and there is no easy or reliable way to sort >>>through this maze of information. We need one objective, reliable reviewer to >>>focus on the above issues. If I can find one, just tell me where to send the >>>money! >> >>Only a few weeks ago I was hesitating about starting a new tournament, which is >>my way of getting an impression about programs. Few people seemed interested and >>I dropped the idea. A post like yours may be the excuse I need. Thanks! :) >> >>Enrique >Hi! > >Please start a new tournament with the new programs, we all want to know if >Shredder4 is the best program as claimed on the Millenium-site. I don't think it is. > Is the new >Junior6 better then Junior5? What about Fritz6 is it better than F5.32? I don't think so either. >Rebel-Century can it play against computers too? Win-Tiger is it even better >then the Dos-version? Yes, by 10 or 20 points. > Nimzo7.32 was it out of luck in the latest SSDF-list? Maybe a bit low, but not significantly. >Is it true that Diep is the best positional program? Who says? :) I would like to play a tournament. It would be at 40/40 on 2 PIII-500 with 256MB RAM. The difference in performance between a P500 and a P600 or 700 doesn't justify the price, I think. Next problem: I could play it with Tiger, Shredder 4, Fritz 6, Junior 6, Hiarcs 732 and Nimzo 732, 20 game matches for a total of 300 games, which takes about a month. The other possibility would be to add Crafty 17.4 and Genius 6.5, but playing 10 game matches and a total of 280 games. What do you think? 20 game matches are more accurate, but including more programs is tempting, even if I don't think that they could win the torunament. >I had a Suzuki motorbike and now I have a Suzuki car but it was more funny with >the bike! I had 28 bikes, all of them much more fun than any cars. But cars are more comfortable and practical, and I can smoke while driving (never tried this on a bike), so it is cars nowadays. :( Enrique >Regards Bertil
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