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Subject: Re: My Collection Of Chess Software and the software you need to improve

Author: Seth Hodgkins

Date: 10:37:54 12/31/99

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On December 29, 1999 at 02:19:29, Charles Unruh wrote:

>Did you read my post?  I didn't say get all the programs i have, i said the
>exact opposite and suggested that people should get only 3(+ extra engine for
>fritz) chess programs with chessmaster being an optional 4th.
>
Sorry about that Charles, you are right I did not read that correctly.  I think
I was tired and cranky that night. Besides this I think I was feeling a little
jealous of anyone that had a chess collection that nice.LOL... But I still don't
like the candy of CM series, but then again the Waitzkins tuts are quite nice.
Talk to you later.
>>On December 28, 1999 at 22:45:54, Seth Hodgkins wrote: Yes I think that it is
>>important to have a good chess engine to help research and develope as a player
>>but simply buying and buying more chess programs is not going to make anyone
>>improve on their game----I'm sorry, but this is a fact.  I have to disagree with
>>the recomendations of having chessmaster in one's porfolio.  I didn't know what
>>I was missing until I purchased Fritz 6.  Chessmasters natural voice annotation
>>is a real cruch, when it comes to seriously looking at ones game and trying to
>>improve.  Fritz puts the analysis in your hand's, not to mention that its
>>totally better at finding neat variations I never would have found with
>>Chessmaster.
>
>Chessmaster is the highest rated prog on 200MHZ, has fantastic style, and finds
>many lines that you'll never find with fritz.  I didn't suggest you use the
>natural language annotation of chessmaster but indeed, CM can serve a nice
>function in a small collection especially cause it's so cheap(I did call it
>candy).
>
>  All the chess programs that you've mentioned, I have to say If one
>>could memorize and use even 10% or the imformation on all those programs then
>>you'd be a heavy weight contender for the world chess championship.  What I'm
>>trying to say ,in all this wind, is I think someone is much better off keeping
>>there porfolio's thinner then you have suggested and focus more attention on one
>>thing at a time and mastering that first. Just some thoughts, after all it is
>>you that should be improving, not your porfolio. If one can't cram that into
>>their head and use it in a game then its wasted. On the other hand if one simply
>>enjoyes collecting chess programs for shear entertainment then that is fine too.
>>
>>>On December 28, 1999 at 21:21:14, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 28, 1999 at 18:11:13, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>But they say it's not how big it is, it's how you use it :),(List is below)
>>>>>HAhahaahahah.
>>>>>
>>>>>My advice to all wouldbe collectors is to get fritz 5 or 6 + (one other engine,
>>>>>H7.32 or J5 etc) Studies 2.0, Claude Kabers Tactics database(Free), The Fritz
>>>>>Database is all you need in that regard.  If you need just a little candy then
>>>>>get Chessmaster.  Collecting more can be fun, but it really gets in the way of
>>>>>why most people get programs in the first place, which is to improve your actual
>>>>>chess play.
>>>>>
>>>>>1.Studies is the best thing for improving your calculation, provides a strong
>>>>>base for understanding the endgame as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>2.Claude Kabers tactics is just fantastic, a Ton of GREAT ordered material, from
>>>>>actual games and free.  Kaber is also a master.
>>>>>
>>>>>3.Fritz5-5.32 is all around nice, F6 has even more functions, but takes a little
>>>>>more time to get a handle on. Not as good a database as CB7, or Chess assistant,
>>>>>but more than anyone beneath a professional chess player probably should need.
>>>>>Has such ease of moving between playing programs, nice handicapping features
>>>>>etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>4.Chessmaster great style of play, great Waitzkin audio tutorials, great
>>>>>handicapping.
>>>>>
>>>>>You should be able to get all of this for just under $100 bucks
>>>>>
>>>>>2 International Masters and 1 GM on ICC, when i Asked them if i stranded a
>>>>>person on an island(with some natural talent) And wanted them to become a master
>>>>>in a year what 5 books they should get they pretty much all gave the combination
>>>>>of 1 endgame book, 1 combo book, and best games of grandmaster A,B,& C.  Spend
>>>>>any extra money you have on that :).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Chessmaster 2000->6000
>>>>>Rebel 8-> rebel century
>>>>>Hiarcs 6->7.32
>>>>>Nimzo 98->2000
>>>>>Genius 2->6.5
>>>>>Shredder2->4
>>>>>Fritz 3->Fritz 6
>>>>>Chess System Tal 2
>>>>>Mchess 8
>>>>>Junior 4.5->7
>>>>>Wchess 2000
>>>>>Zarkov 5
>>>>>Tiger 10.1,11.7 & Tiger 12
>>>>>Doctor?
>>>>>Ed Chess
>>>>>Several unknown chess playing programs
>>>>>Various Crafties
>>>>>Cyrus Chess 3d
>>>>>Chessbase 7.0
>>>>>Chess Mentor Deluxe
>>>>>Studies 2.0
>>>>>Encyclopedia of Middlegames
>>>>>CT-Art 3.0
>>>>>Chess Strategy
>>>>>Claude Kabers Tactics Database
>>>>>Blindfold
>>>>>Nalimov Endgames
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you jealous :)?
>>>>
>>>>Nope. My list is bigger.
>>>>Fernando



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