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Subject: Re: Unfair Prejudice Against Computers?

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 21:02:33 01/02/00

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On January 02, 2000 at 21:39:33, Graham Laight wrote:

>On January 02, 2000 at 09:32:50, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On January 01, 2000 at 16:53:00, Graham Laight wrote:
>>>Imagine if human players from a particular country were told that they may not
>>>play against strong players unless they were prepared to pay high fees for
>>>individual games.
>>>
>>>There would, quite rightly, be an outcry!
>>>
>>>It's unfair on the computers to put these restrictions on them. Where's your
>>>humanity?  :-)
>>>
>>>-g
>>
>>It isn't quite the same thing you know, but being a CC enthusiast, I naturally
>>want to see the games take place. The real changes took place when the computers
>>came into a position to win tournaments. That's when they were more truly
>>stonewalled. I remember a huge, 11 round, 30 minute game open in France at
>>Aubervilliers, and there was always an interesting roster of computer players
>>participating. I haven't heard about any computer participation since a version
>>of Genius tied for 2nd-3rd though. I can understand as well, and it is
>>complicated. Would you want to participate in a tournament (active chess) with
>>IMs, GMs, and tons of players, and have the results read like this:
>>
>>1) Fritz 9.99       10.5/11
>>2-4) Hiarcs 10.0    10/11
>>2-4) Rebel Timewarp 10/11
>>2-4) Chess Weasel   10/11
>>5-9) CM 9300        9.5/11
>>5-9) Nimzo 9.64     9.5/11
>>5-9) Deeper Junior  9.5/11
>>5-9) Crafty 23.412  9.5/11
>>5-9) GM Short       9.5/11
>>
>>Etc...
>>
>>I sympathize, even if the prizes are given only to the human players. The
>>problem will only worsen apart from specially organized events, designed to
>>include cybernetic opponents.
>>
>>                                    Albert Silver
>
>The above text is a wonderful sight to behold!
>
>Albert appears to be admitting that, within 2 new versions of Hiarcs, chess
>software will be in a position to push GM Short, the 2nd best player in the UK,
>and the player who challenged Kasparov for the PCA world championship just a few
>years ago, into 9th place in an active tournament!

Ahem! Confession? I hate to burst your bubble there buddy, but you seem to be a
little behind the times my friend. :-) Fritz did ok in Frankfurt THIS year
didn't it? But that was in active chess. 60 moves (more or less) in 30 minutes
and 60 moves in 6 hours aren't exactly the same thing.

                                      Albert Silver


All we need now is the
>confession that they'll also be able to get some points in a proper GM 40/120
>event!
>
>-g



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