Author: Graham Laight
Date: 01:08:05 01/03/00
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On January 03, 2000 at 00:02:33, Albert Silver wrote: >>>It isn't quite the same thing you know, but being a CC enthusiast, I naturally >>>want to see the games take place. The real changes took place when the computers >>>came into a position to win tournaments. That's when they were more truly >>>stonewalled. I remember a huge, 11 round, 30 minute game open in France at >>>Aubervilliers, and there was always an interesting roster of computer players >>>participating. I haven't heard about any computer participation since a version >>>of Genius tied for 2nd-3rd though. I can understand as well, and it is >>>complicated. Would you want to participate in a tournament (active chess) with >>>IMs, GMs, and tons of players, and have the results read like this: >>> >>>1) Fritz 9.99 10.5/11 >>>2-4) Hiarcs 10.0 10/11 >>>2-4) Rebel Timewarp 10/11 >>>2-4) Chess Weasel 10/11 >>>5-9) CM 9300 9.5/11 >>>5-9) Nimzo 9.64 9.5/11 >>>5-9) Deeper Junior 9.5/11 >>>5-9) Crafty 23.412 9.5/11 >>>5-9) GM Short 9.5/11 >>> >>>Etc... >>> >>>I sympathize, even if the prizes are given only to the human players. The >>>problem will only worsen apart from specially organized events, designed to >>>include cybernetic opponents. >>> >>> Albert Silver >> >>The above text is a wonderful sight to behold! >> >>Albert appears to be admitting that, within 2 new versions of Hiarcs, chess >>software will be in a position to push GM Short, the 2nd best player in the UK, >>and the player who challenged Kasparov for the PCA world championship just a few >>years ago, into 9th place in an active tournament! > >Ahem! Confession? I hate to burst your bubble there buddy, but you seem to be a >little behind the times my friend. :-) Fritz did ok in Frankfurt THIS year >didn't it? But that was in active chess. 60 moves (more or less) in 30 minutes >and 60 moves in 6 hours aren't exactly the same thing. > > Albert Silver > Well - it's too early to have a glass of wine to celebrate, but I've put on a good CD this morning! If computers can match players like Short (FIDE 2700 from memory) at active chess (roughly G/30), and we know from past studies that computers will rate 80 Elo points higher in active chess than they will at tournament time controls (source: Selective Search - UK computer chess magazine), then we must be saying that right now the computers are about 2620 Elo - which isn't bad (if a little lower than the 2664 - 2674 that SSDF seem to be saying Tiger can achieve). -g
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