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Subject: Re: ChessBits is threatened by Computerschach and speile

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:17:26 01/04/00

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On January 04, 2000 at 08:43:35, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On January 04, 2000 at 08:28:19, Andrew Carey wrote:
>
>>it is said there:
>>
>>In ChessBits 3 we have started a test to research the effectivity of the
>>tablebases in several programs. For that we used some positions of the "Nunn
>>endgame test".
>>The magazine CSS and its publisher Vögel did say that we have touched their
>>copyright and they were prejudiced.
>>
>>When we announced the second part of the research we have got the following
>>reaction:
>>
>>"... In the last issue of your magazine you have announced to publish the second
>>part of this article. On he supposation that you once again are using parts of
>>our copyright protected stuff we forbid you to publish your article... we will
>>use all our possibilities to protect our copyright. You have to pay the costs:"
>>
>>At the moment we try to reach an agreement with CSS/Vögel. But this is not very
>>easy because they haven´t hold agreements in former times. So we don´t want to
>>disturb the negotiation we don´t publish the whole case now to show the
>>"honesty" of the colleagues. Maybe they are coming to their senses.
>>
>>----------------------------------
>>
>>why is computerschach and speile attacking chessbits, i thought
>>this new magazine is doing a great job.
>>
>>What is their fear ?
>>aren't there enough customers for all ?
>
>I wonder, if these 10 simple endgame positions really are copyrighted by Nunn or
>CSS? Is it possible?? Then same copyright must cover also Nunn opening
>positions. Nonsense!!
>
>Jouni


There are two issues:

(1) the work involved in putting together N positions is definitely going to
make the 'collection' copyrightable.  That is what copyright is all about.
Individual positions are _never_ copyrightable, even if the position is a
composition, because it is possible to write a simple program to enumerate
_every_ possible position (ie in a written document, an individual word is
not copyrightable).

(2) the real question is "Who holds the copyright?"  The answer should be
"Nunn" unless he signed over the copyright to CSS.  Someone ought to be able
to ask him if he did this.  If not, there is no problem as CSS doesn't get
the copyright by publishing.  He holds the copyright as the originator.



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