Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Announcement: Diep - Tiger beginning saturday!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 12:32:13 01/04/00

Go up one level in this thread


On January 04, 2000 at 14:02:33, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On January 04, 2000 at 12:45:55, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On January 03, 2000 at 20:34:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 03, 2000 at 19:34:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 02:20:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Want to remind you on the fact that i will do a tournament between
>>>>>a fast-searcher .-))) rebel-tiger12 without book,
>>>>>and vincents slow-searcher diep in a few days...
>>>>>
>>>>>it will be 40 games 40/120. on 400 Mhz machines.
>>>>>maybe we get so many data concerning this topic,
>>>>>that we can have nice discussions here.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am mainly vincents opinion.
>>>>
>>>>Hello Thorsten,
>>>>I'm sure you will post the games here for all to see.  Frankly, I will be
>>>>surprised if Diep is within 150 points of ChessTiger.  Have you tested Junior 6
>>>>yet?  I'm very impressed with this program.
>>>>Jim Walker
>>>
>>>
>>>I will be surprised if they are very far apart.  Diep plays a lot on ICC and it
>>>is _not_ a pushover.  At longer time controls it is very dangerous.
>>
>>Hello Bob,
>>I hope you are right!  I have only seen Diep at G/30 or less.  It was not very
>>impressive but I also believe it has faster hardware now.  I hope it is an
>>interesting match.
>>Jim Walker
>
>
>I wonder why Diep is supposed to be stronger with a faster computer and Tiger is
>not...
>
>Maybe some people are already brainwashed by Vincent's words?
>
>
>    Christophe


No... but some programs react better.  If you run crafty on a machine, and
cut the clock speed by 1/2 every now and then, the playing skill will drop
steadily until some threshold value, then it will plummet... because you just
dropped the search depth into the range where my null-move search assumptions
begin to fail badly.  A non-null program won't have that threshold to cross and
at some point it will suddenly start to kill mine when the hardware gets too
slow.

Not uncommon at all...

Whether this is Vincent's issue or not is unknown.. I only know that his program
plays _very_ strongly on ICC...  Against Tiger, against mine, against anyone...

It never pays to take someone too lightly...



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.