Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 14:10:49 01/04/00
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On January 04, 2000 at 15:32:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>On January 04, 2000 at 14:02:33, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 04, 2000 at 12:45:55, James T. Walker wrote:
>>
>>>On January 03, 2000 at 20:34:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 19:34:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 02:20:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Want to remind you on the fact that i will do a tournament between
>>>>>>a fast-searcher .-))) rebel-tiger12 without book,
>>>>>>and vincents slow-searcher diep in a few days...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it will be 40 games 40/120. on 400 Mhz machines.
>>>>>>maybe we get so many data concerning this topic,
>>>>>>that we can have nice discussions here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am mainly vincents opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello Thorsten,
>>>>>I'm sure you will post the games here for all to see. Frankly, I will be
>>>>>surprised if Diep is within 150 points of ChessTiger. Have you tested Junior 6
>>>>>yet? I'm very impressed with this program.
>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I will be surprised if they are very far apart. Diep plays a lot on ICC and it
>>>>is _not_ a pushover. At longer time controls it is very dangerous.
>>>
>>>Hello Bob,
>>>I hope you are right! I have only seen Diep at G/30 or less. It was not very
>>>impressive but I also believe it has faster hardware now. I hope it is an
>>>interesting match.
>>>Jim Walker
>>
>>
>>I wonder why Diep is supposed to be stronger with a faster computer and Tiger is
>>not...
>>
>>Maybe some people are already brainwashed by Vincent's words?
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>
>No... but some programs react better. If you run crafty on a machine, and
>cut the clock speed by 1/2 every now and then, the playing skill will drop
>steadily until some threshold value, then it will plummet... because you just
>dropped the search depth into the range where my null-move search assumptions
>begin to fail badly. A non-null program won't have that threshold to cross and
>at some point it will suddenly start to kill mine when the hardware gets too
>slow.
>
>Not uncommon at all...
>
>Whether this is Vincent's issue or not is unknown.. I only know that his program
>plays _very_ strongly on ICC... Against Tiger, against mine, against anyone...
>
>It never pays to take someone too lightly...
That's not how I see it.
I'm taking the risk in public to challenge somebody who has a big mouth.
I know many peoples are irritated by Vincent blahblah, but I see nobody (almost
nobody) standing up to tell him.
What do I have to win from this match? Can you tell me, Bob?
I have nothing to win, and much to lose.
However I take this match exactly like the matches that have been played by the
SSDF, Tiger against X, X being a strong commercial program. I have never been
afraid of such matches, I'm not going to be afraid today just because Vincent
claims he has such a wonderful program and such a wonderful understanding of
chess programming.
Actually when I read such claims I feel more confident. I don't know why...
Christophe
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