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Subject: Re: Announcement: Diep - Tiger beginning saturday!

Author: James Robertson

Date: 13:37:44 01/05/00

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On January 05, 2000 at 02:31:46, blass uri wrote:

>On January 05, 2000 at 02:17:28, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On January 04, 2000 at 09:32:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On January 04, 2000 at 01:16:02, Charles Unruh wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 21:46:46, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 20:34:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 19:34:43, James T. Walker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On January 03, 2000 at 02:20:43, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Want to remind you on the fact that i will do a tournament between
>>>>>>>>a fast-searcher .-))) rebel-tiger12 without book,
>>>>>>>>and vincents slow-searcher diep in a few days...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>it will be 40 games 40/120. on 400 Mhz machines.
>>>>>>>>maybe we get so many data concerning this topic,
>>>>>>>>that we can have nice discussions here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I am mainly vincents opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hello Thorsten,
>>>>>>>I'm sure you will post the games here for all to see.  Frankly, I will be
>>>>>>>surprised if Diep is within 150 points of ChessTiger.  Have you tested Junior 6
>>>>>>>yet?  I'm very impressed with this program.
>>>>>>>Jim Walker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I will be surprised if they are very far apart.  Diep plays a lot on ICC and it
>>>>>>is _not_ a pushover.  At longer time controls it is very dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And Tiger will play WITHOUT BOOK. I'm looking forward this match.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>Are both playing without book?  Is this an experiment or a grudge match?
>>>
>>>
>>>If you play one program without book, then essentially you play both programs
>>>without book.  The one without a book will make a quick 'oddball' move that
>>>will take the other program out of book, most of the time.  IE many programs
>>>will start off Nf3 and Nc3 as white which will take most anyone out of book.
>>
>>Yes, especially since one of Vincent's important plans seems to be to get the
>>other program out of the book quickly (with rare openings like 1. d4 d5 2. a3).
>>I think the end result will be that the games leave the book _very_ fast. :)
>>
>>James
>
>How do you know vincent's plans?

Because it is consistent with the way Diep played at DOCCC99. I talked with him
and watched his program play.

Maybe that is not his plan _this_ match, but in general it seems to be one of
his goals.

James

>
>If these were his plans then there is no reason for him to refuse to play with
>books.
>
>I do not believe that books are important mainly because of the possibility of
>these ideas but I do not think that vincent intends to use them.
>
>I expect some games to be in books for 10 moves because programs often find book
>moves by search.
>
>Uri



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