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Subject: Re: LONG POST -- need expert opinions

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:04:04 01/06/00

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On January 06, 2000 at 15:43:25, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On January 06, 2000 at 14:25:10, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>The data can be retrieved in a side-by-side format from:
>>ftp://38.168.214.175/pub/both.epd
>>
>>This is a comparison of data produced by PC's at very long time controls with
>>data produced by a supercomputer.
>>
>>This is a very significant and important step for C.A.P. (and I think it will
>>also be for chess theory).
>
>I'm a bit unclear on this...What exactly did you mean by "see how well it meshes
>with theory"?  Do you mean chess theory or statistical theory?
Chess theory.  Sometimes the C.A.P. data suggests a move that is known to be
inferior, especially in the opening section of games.

>And what is the
>current theory?
Good question.  I hope that owners of the most recent ECO and related volumes
can look it up.

>One thing that makes it difficult to compare the two sets is that the formatting
>of the output is so different.  I can hardly read the second result of each
>pair, because of the weird move formatting.
It is non standard, but pretty obvious.  The first letter of a move is the
piece, then the source square, then the target square.

>Also, it has no given search depth
>and is missing any other indicator of how deeply it was searched.
It was searched much more deeply than a PC can hope even to imagine.

>One other question I have is what program(s) the new data came from?
I am not at liberty to say.

>It appears that the supercomputer data gives a higher score for almost every
>position, which is strange.
There are both higher and lower evals.

>Is this just some subset of the total positions
>where this occurs, or is this indicative of the entire set?
It appears to me (at first blush) that the supercomputer evals are better.

>Sorry for all the questions. :)  Hopefully you can provide me with some
>enlightenment. :)



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