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Subject: Re: knowledge replacement?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:08:42 01/06/00

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On January 06, 2000 at 20:22:58, Mike S. wrote:

>Dear chess programmers & fans,
>since the use of larger and larger opening books and endgame databases with
>"dynamic" access increases, I would like to ask if I have to fear that knowledge
>(within the engine) is in danger to be replaced by databases?
>In other words, do programmers rely for example that an opening book is always
>used so that some sophisticated opening knowledge could be left away to gain
>speed for the search? The struggle for speed and ply depth is of course
>important for good chances in (direct) competitions with other programs, but
>from the viewpoint of a fan and customer, I wouldn't like the knowledge to be
>reduced.
>I have no evidence of that, but it's also hard to say because the programs are
>much different in knowledge anyway. I.e., in the opening, basics like not
>bringing the queen out too early or to avoid blocking the d2-pawn with Bd3 etc.,
>would surely be kept in the program but advanced things like center or tempo
>related matters are also implemented often I think. At least this is my
>impression, as the programs seem to have been improved much for the opening when
>they are "out of book" early. It would be sad if this would be sacrificed for a
>few percent more in the results of computer matches.
>It's similar in the endgame. I think most programs know that KNN-K is a draw.
>But when such built-in knowledge was removed, and the user doesn't have or use 4
>piece tablebases (maybe because he doubts if they won't reduce calculating speed
>too much, as I do), the program would be "silly" again... I'm afraid of that.
>
>Hopefully there is no such danger? Please tell me.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl


I can't answer for others, but I can answer for myself.  I haven't been doing
this.  In addition to adding tablebase support to crafty, plus new and more
complex opening book stuff, I have also added significant amounts of new
knowledge over the past few years.  I have gotten slower, not faster...



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