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Subject: Re: Genius hash scores

Author: Chessfun

Date: 19:52:28 01/08/00

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On January 08, 2000 at 21:38:11, Chessfun wrote:

>On January 08, 2000 at 18:20:18, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On January 08, 2000 at 13:20:12, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On January 08, 2000 at 12:17:51, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>><snipped>
>>>
>>>>I see that this position raises very little interest, or maybe top programs are
>>>>not able to solve it? Actually I know that Genius5 solves it pretty fast (maybe
>>>>faster than Tiger, I'm not sure).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>To answer the first post. I don't have a favorite program you won't
>>>send it to me !!.
>>>
>>>Genius 5. Takes 3 mins 25 secs on Cel 433 to post a + score for 1. f6.
>>>
>>>Genius 6. Takes 4 mins 12 secs to post a + score for 1. f6.
>>>It looks at 1. f6. for first 44 secs showing - then switches to Kxg2
>>>before going back to 1. f6.
>>>
>>>CM6K default no solve after 12 min 19 secs 42,000,000 nodes.
>>>
>>>Hiarcs 7.32 Looks at 1. f6. for first up to first 2 mins showing -
>>>then switches to Kxg2 before I gave up at depth 15/30 approx 7 mins
>>>still showing Kxg2.
>>>
>>>Fritz 6 No luck after 5 mins 1. Kxg2.
>>>
>>>I had tried this on other softwares, Tiger is the fastest I have heard.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>I did not expect Tiger to be the fastest.
>>
>>How much hash tables have you used? This position is rather sensitive to the
>>amount of hash table (it's natural as it is an endgame with reduced material).
>>
>Genius 5 used default 4mb
>Genius 6 used default 8mb
>Hiarcs 7.32 I used 8 mb
>Fritz 6 I used 16 mb it eats *HASH*
>CM36K set up at 16 mb
>
>>Actually I have just realized that Tiger solves it faster with 8Mb hash: 39
>>seconds with 8Mb, 1m12s with 16Mb, and 28s with 32Mb hash tables (new record?).
>>The 16Mb result is an accident, it happens from time to time. Results on a K6-
>>450MHz.
>
>I will try later this evening differing hash amounts.
>>
>>Genius5 DOS is handicapped as the version I have, which was provided together
>>with G5 Windows, cannot use more 384Kb.
>>
>>I suppose you have tried Genius5 Windows with a decent amount of hash tables?
>>
>Yes it is Genius 5 windows version hash default is 4096.
>>
>>    Christophe
>Thanks.

Cel 433
Genius 5. 2kb hash = 1.f6 switches again to Kxg2 after 44 secs then solves
1.f6 posting + score after 3 min 48 secs.
Genius 5. 4kb hash = 1.f6 switches again to Kxg2 after 40 secs then solves
1.f6 posting + score after 3 min 25 secs.
Genius 5. 8kb hash = 1.f6 switches again to kxg2 after 1 min 19 secs solves
1.f6 posting + score after 4 min 29 secs.
Genuis 5. 16kb hash = 1.f6 switches again to kxg2 after 59 secs then solves
1.f6 posting + score after 3 min 25 secs.

Genius 6 times are almost identical.

The other engines I think it is pointless exercise !.
I just try one other engine MCP8 8kb hash = No solve after 18 mins.

Tiger posts a + at 28 secs without going back? Genius picks 1. f6 always
but not with a + score which is when it switches to Kxg2 before switching back.
Trouble comes for Genius at depth 12/24 when it sees Kxg2 as better.

I'll trade yer two Genius's for a Tiger !! LOL.
Thanks.











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