Author: Mark Young
Date: 20:20:41 01/09/00
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On January 09, 2000 at 22:50:44, walter irvin wrote: >On January 09, 2000 at 21:10:29, Mark Young wrote: > >>On January 09, 2000 at 18:33:26, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On January 09, 2000 at 17:43:32, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>Let's not go off the deep end here. I personally don't give a care about >>>>his comments. Feel free to tell him to drop by ICC at any point in time he >>>>chooses and demonstrate how badly Crafty plays in a few blitz games. He >>>>reminds me of the "catfish" in the deep south waterways. Eat anything. Dumb >>>>as a rock. We say "he is like a catfish, all mouth and no brains" when some- >>>>one makes silly and easily refutable remarks... >>>> >>>>Kasparov is in ChessBase's pocket. However, from this point forward, since >>>>we are going to continue to see this, I believe that I will simply choose to >>>>say that "no more crafty versions will be available for ChessBase products". >>>> >>>>If it is so bad, they really don't need it anyway. If I see any future versions >>>>on their web site, I will let my attorney do the talking. >>> >>>The article is poisonous and I understand your anger, but I think you are not >>>aiming well. First of all, I can't imagine Kasparov being in anybody's pocket. >>>Second, the heated argument about Deep Blue can easily explain the animosity >>>towards Crafty without resorting to third parties. >>> >>>What I can tell you is that I keep receiving regular updates of Crafty for CB, >>>together with positive comments about it. I don't believe in the long and >>>sinister arm of CB, and even less in this case. >>> >>>Enrique >> >>I don't see why Bob is so upset. The comments made are pretty much accurate. >> >>"Crafty is extremely strong in tactics." ....True >> >>"it makes positional errors and misplays some endgames" ....True >> >>"It doesn’t understand piece mobility." ....True, but could use more >>explaination. >> >>"Crafty is a weak program compared with the best commercial chess >>programs."....True >> >>I have seen no crafty results even by you that dispute those observations. Bob >>may not like it but at this time his program is still weaker then the top >>programs. It must be noted that bob has closed the gap in the last year, but >>crafty is still not on par with the top commercail programs. > >i dont know , some of my engine tourn in chessbase hiarcs 7.32 , crafty competes >very well .i put fritz6 light and fritz 5.32 in hiarcs also .hiarcs 7.32 is no >longer the best engine in there .crafty does better vs the fritz engines than >hiarcs has been doing .at the faster time controls crafty comes in second 50% of >the time . fritz6 comes in 1st 95% of the time .i have not tested the slower >time controls . In the artical Crafty 16.6 was discussed, on my rating list this Crafty (16.6) has a rating of 2471. This is a full 80 points behind Fritz 6 (2551) on my rating list. As I have now increased my time controls and now play mostly 40moves/40mins and longer. The Crafty's have been falling further behind. I myself don't find much useful in the artical, but I don't think the observations about crafty are off base. I think Bob has a pretty thin skin when it comes to crafty, and as in the past he tends to take a shotgun approch in his attacks.
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