Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 12:08:35 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 14:53:58, Albert Silver wrote: >On January 10, 2000 at 10:52:12, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On January 09, 2000 at 22:21:25, Dave Gomboc wrote: >> >>>You can read the letter at http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/feng.html >>> >>>Your comments? >>> >>>Dave > >Sounds a little oily on Kasparov's part. A rematch means another match against a >same opponent, so all this talk of having a public record prior to accepting to >play it sounds a little weak. If anyone knows anything about it, he does. He >played the thing, so how mysterious can it be? Furthermore, all the talks given >by Hsu and others involved, plus the paper detailing the design in IEEE Micro, >certainly don't make it a "mystery box". Sure, it would undoubtedly undergo some >changes in speed and tuning, but he knows what Hsu would be working from. >Besides, he challenged DB and not "any program with an established public >record", so I just don't buy it. Well... I think I do. To you and to me, DB means Hsu and his team. To the immense majority, DB=IBM. Then, this new DB would be your "mystery box" for most, maybe also for Kasparov. As I understand it, match and rematch were Kasparov against DB-IBM. Once IBM quits, it's an entirely different opponent in the eyes of most. Therefore, it must qualify, etc. Enrique > Albert Silver >> >>Shay and I called Kasparov and asked him about it, and here's what he has to say >>(not an exact quote): >> >>There was one short letter from Hsu, which was answered by an even shorter >>letter, and that was the entire discussion. >> >>He felt that the question/proposition was not serious from the business point of >>view. >> >>The answer Hsu got was: Kasparov will play ANY computer, under suitable terms, >>provided the computer is a known entity that has a record against other >>opponents. He remembers that the conversation with Hsu ended after he received >>this answer. >> >>Kasparov told us that he reconfirms this commitment, and cited his agreement to >>play Deep Junior in the coming online tournament. Kasparov told us he will not >>agree to play against a mystery box as Deep Blue was before their match, and >>that the machine should have some public record before it plays him. >> >>Kasaprov also knew that Hsu has been talking to Microsoft about this. >> >>So far from Kasaprov. >> >>We tried to reach Owen Williams to clarify some more things, but couldn't reach >>him. There's some apparent contradiction in the number of messages passed and >>their content, which maybe Owen could clarify, but I don't think it's very >>important, because obviously both sides are telling the same story, but from >>their own point of view. >> >>Hsu bought permission from IBM to build his own version of Deep Blue. He needed >>to build a new chip, to develop new hardware and software, and get a new project >>going on. He needed funding for this project, and he could get it only if >>Kasparov gave prior commitment to play it. Kasparov, by his version, basically >>told him to come back when he has a working machine and a record to prove it. >>With this answer, Hsu could not make progress, and so folded his tent. >> >>I'm guessing that Hsu, a tech person, viewed the fact that he didn't have IBM >>with him, no funding, no project and no machine as temporary technicalities, and >>didn't see these as obstacles to planning a match. Kasparov probably saw it >>differently. >> >>IMO, if Kasparov indeed answered with "come back when you have a machine", >>that's a reasonable reply that does not break his former commitment. However Hsu >>didn't need Kasparov so much to play a match as he needed him to make the entire >>project possible. >> >>Amir
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