Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 13:21:26 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 13:41:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>On January 10, 2000 at 09:19:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On January 10, 2000 at 07:17:35, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On January 10, 2000 at 05:33:18, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>
>>>>On January 10, 2000 at 05:12:23, Tijs van Dam wrote:
>>>>>But IBM could hookup their proggie to ICC and see how it performs? What rating
>>>>>would a "30 man-year project" get?
>>>>
>>>>About 8000 blitz. =)
>>>>-Tom
>>>
>>>They would be there then.
>>
>>
>>I can tell you _exactly_ what it's blitz rating would be. It would be X+500
>>where X is the highest rated player that would play it. Deep Thought had the
>>highest rating on the server by 300 points when it played there, and had the
>>highest win/lose average on the server by far (fin scratchy on ICC).
>>
>>It would definitely be murder. Deep Thought was tough enough...
>
>
>there were not many GMs then, and programs at that time searched like 5 ply
>in blitz.
>
I don't care what other programs were doing back in 1993 when they
played... scratchy played players like Junior (not the program, but
Junior on ICC) plus other GM and IM players. I watched a lot of them.
In playing there, at blitz it won 141, lost 1 and drew 4. In standard, it
won 374, lost 14 and drew 37. Hardly any were against weak players. Most
were 2 12 and similar time controls which is not a real fast T/C.
>There is no compare to todays situation. People are very smart;
>let's take a problem i'm confronted now with:
>
>[Event "ICC 3 0"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2000.01.04"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Secret"]
>[Black "Maup"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ICCResult "White forfeits on time"]
>[WhiteElo "2874"]
>[BlackElo "2410"]
>[Opening "Owen defense"]
>[ECO "B00"]
>[NIC "VO.03"]
>[Time "15:41:46"]
>[TimeControl "180+0"]
>
>1. e4 b6 2. d4 Bb7 3. Bd3 e6 4. Nf3 d6 5. O-O a6 6. Bf4 Nd7 7. Nbd2 g6 8.
>Qe2 Bg7 9. e5 d5 10. Qe3 h6 11. Bg3 Ne7 12. c3 Rb8 13. Rfe1 Ra8 14. Bh4 Rb8
>15. Qe2 Ra8 16. b4 Ra7 17. Bxe7 Qxe7 18. a4 Ra8 19. a5 b5 20. Nb3 c6 21. Nc5
>Nxc5 22. dxc5 Bc8 23. Nd4 Bd7 24. Qb2 Rc8 25. Qd2 Rc7 26. g3 Rc8 27. h4 Rc7
>28. Qc2 Rc8 29. h5 g5 30. Rad1 Rc7 31. Qe2 Kd8 32. Rc1 Rf8 33. Rc2 Kc8 34.
>Qg4 Kb7 35. Re3 Kb8 36. Qh3 Kb7 37. Rce2 Kb8 38. Re1 Kb7 39. Qf1 Kb8 40. Qe2
>Kb7 41. Rc1 Kb8 42. Kf1 Kb7 43. Kg1 Kb8 44. Bb1 Kb7 45. Qe1 Kb8 46. Bd3 Kb7
>47. Rc2 Kb8 48. Rce2 Kb7 49. Qd2 Kb8 50. Kg2 Kb7 51. f3 Kb8 52. Qa2 Kb7 53.
>Re1 Kb8 54. Qf2 Kb7 55. Qe2 Kb8 56. Qd2 Kb7 57. R3e2 Kb8 58. Qd1 Kb7 59. Bc2
>Kb8 60. Qd3 Kb7 61. Qe3 Kb8 62. Qf2 Kb7 63. Bh7 Kb8 64. Kh2 Kb7 65. Qe3 Kb8
>66. Qd2 Kb7 67. Kg2 Kb8 68. Qe3 Kb7 69. Qd3 Kb8 70. Qb1 Kb7 71. Bd3 Kb8 72.
>Qb3 Kb7 73. Qd1 Kb8 74. Rf2 Kb7 75. Qe2 Kb8 76. Rff1 Kb7 77. Rh1 Kb8 78. Qe3
>Kb7 79. Kf2 Kb8 80. Rhf1 Kb7 81. Bh7 Kb8 82. Bc2 Kb7 83. Kg2 Kb8 84. Bd3 Kb7
>85. Qe2 Kb8 86. Rh1 Rb7 87. Qe3 Rc7 88. Kf2 Kb7 89. Qd2 Kb8 90. Qe2 Rb7 91.
>Rhg1 Ka8 92. Kg2 Ka7 93. Rgf1 Bh8 94. Rh1 Ka8 95. Qe3 Ka7 96. Rhf1 Ka8 97.
>Rf2 Rg8 98. Rc2 Ka7 99. Ree2 Ka8 100. Ra2 Ka7 101. g4 Ka8 102. Bh7 Rf8 103.
>Bb1 Bg7 104. Bd3 Ka7 105. Re1 Kb8 106. Rae2 Qd8 107. Qf2 Qe7 108. Qg3 Qd8
>109. Qh2 Qc7 110. Re3 Qc8 111. Bh7 Qc7 112. Bd3 Ka7 113. Qg3 Ka8 114. R3e2
>Ka7 115. Qf2 Ka8 116. Qe3 Ka7 117. Qd2 Ka8 118. Qc2 Ka7 119. Qb3 Ka8 120.
>Re3 Ka7 121. Qc2 Ka8 122. Qb3 Ka7 123. Qc2 Ka8 124. Qe2 Ka7 125. Qd2 Kb8
>126. Kf2 Re8 127. Bh7 Rf8 128. Bc2 Bc8 129. Bd3 Bd7 130. R3e2 Re8 131. Kg2
>Rf8 132. Kf2 Ka8 133. Qc2 Rbb8 134. Kg2 Rbc8 135. Qb2 Rcd8 136. Qb3 Rde8
>137. Qa2 Rg8 138. Bh7 Rh8 139. Bc2 Rc8 140. Bd3 Rb8 141. Qd2 Rhg8
>{White forfeits on time}
>0-1
What does that have to do with Deep Blue? If you don't manage your time well,
you lose. Simple, really. It has happened to me. I fixed it.
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