Author: george petty
Date: 14:08:13 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 16:58:05, Amir Ban wrote: >On January 10, 2000 at 12:31:05, Eugene Nalimov wrote: > >>Words "I will treat you exactly as any other challenger" means that he backed >>off his own (Kasparov's) previous rematch challenge, made after 2nd DB match. >>And that is exactly what Hsu is saying. Or my interpretation is wrong? >> >>Eugene >> > >The challenge was made to IBM, and if I understand correctly, still stands. Hsu >is not IBM, though he seems to be unaware of the difference between the Deep >Blue project under IBM, and himself alone. Remember Kasparov said he regarded >the approach as not serious. I understand why. Hsu is not the first tech person >to confuse between his technical skills and the strength of his entire >organization, but nobody knows better than Kasparov that Deep Blue is not Hsu. >It's IBM. Hsu is valuable but replaceable. Hsu alone is nothing. If he didn't >understand this before, I think he understands it now. > >In fact, if there's one person who's indispensable for Deep Blue, it's Kasaprov. > >Amir > > Very TRUE! George >>On January 10, 2000 at 10:52:12, Amir Ban wrote: >> >>>On January 09, 2000 at 22:21:25, Dave Gomboc wrote: >>> >>>>You can read the letter at http://www.chesscenter.com/twic/feng.html >>>> >>>>Your comments? >>>> >>>>Dave >>> >>>Shay and I called Kasparov and asked him about it, and here's what he has to say >>>(not an exact quote): >>> >>>There was one short letter from Hsu, which was answered by an even shorter >>>letter, and that was the entire discussion. >>> >>>He felt that the question/proposition was not serious from the business point of >>>view. >>> >>>The answer Hsu got was: Kasparov will play ANY computer, under suitable terms, >>>provided the computer is a known entity that has a record against other >>>opponents. He remembers that the conversation with Hsu ended after he received >>>this answer. >>> >>>Kasparov told us that he reconfirms this commitment, and cited his agreement to >>>play Deep Junior in the coming online tournament. Kasparov told us he will not >>>agree to play against a mystery box as Deep Blue was before their match, and >>>that the machine should have some public record before it plays him. >>> >>>Kasaprov also knew that Hsu has been talking to Microsoft about this. >>> >>>So far from Kasaprov. >>> >>>We tried to reach Owen Williams to clarify some more things, but couldn't reach >>>him. There's some apparent contradiction in the number of messages passed and >>>their content, which maybe Owen could clarify, but I don't think it's very >>>important, because obviously both sides are telling the same story, but from >>>their own point of view. >>> >>>Hsu bought permission from IBM to build his own version of Deep Blue. He needed >>>to build a new chip, to develop new hardware and software, and get a new project >>>going on. He needed funding for this project, and he could get it only if >>>Kasparov gave prior commitment to play it. Kasparov, by his version, basically >>>told him to come back when he has a working machine and a record to prove it. >>>With this answer, Hsu could not make progress, and so folded his tent. >>> >>>I'm guessing that Hsu, a tech person, viewed the fact that he didn't have IBM >>>with him, no funding, no project and no machine as temporary technicalities, and >>>didn't see these as obstacles to planning a match. Kasparov probably saw it >>>differently. >>> >>>IMO, if Kasparov indeed answered with "come back when you have a machine", >>>that's a reasonable reply that does not break his former commitment. However Hsu >>>didn't need Kasparov so much to play a match as he needed him to make the entire >>>project possible. >>> >>>Amir
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