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Subject: Re: Moderation: Rights? Do you mean Privileges?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 17:41:52 01/10/00

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On January 10, 2000 at 20:21:28, david ballard wrote:

>>1) You have no rights here. You, me, and everyone else only has privilege here
>>(except Steve).
>
>alright then privilages it is.
>
>>2) Please tell us who is running this forum as opposed to yet another example >of unsubstantiated claims and unspecified individuals. Nobody "runs" this >forum and does as they please. There are moderators who try to minimize the >nonsense, but that is why it is called a "moderated forum". If you do not like >moderation, fine, go to r.g.c.c. and leave the people who are interested in on > topic discussions here alone.
>
>A moderator has great influence over the content of what is posted.  You are
>underestimating the power in deleting threads and banning users.  Moderators
>have the ability to make someone's voice unheard by deleting their threads.
Not so.  You can always go post in the unmoderated USENET forum
news:rec.games.chess.computers where nothing is off-topic. (Well, actually it's
off topic anyway, but nobody can make you stop doing it.)

>Sorry that I don't know your names, but I have not cared to much to learn them.
There are 3 of us right now.  Bruce, Dann and KD.

>>3) Yes, and after this post of yours here today, I would ask you to grow up yet
>>again.  Learn to live with it as opposed to attempting a
>>flaming thread yet again.
>
>I tried to bring this subject into the open so that I may see if others are
>having problems of the same nature.  I am glad I did this and I would do it
>again.  Apparently their is someone who loves to make trouble and they are based
>around the ccc news forum.
How do you know where the troublemaker is coming from?  If you did a traceroute
(which is actually quite simple) then simply complain to the ISP of the
offender.  If you actually know who it is (which you don't because no one in
their right mind would have blamed a CCC moderator) then say so and we could get
right to the bottom of it.

>I don't know who that is so I am not accusing one
>named individual, but it was awfully suspicious that I was stalked then
>privately insulted.
Just because someone calls you a whinging twit does not mean that they are the
stalkers.  Actually, you may look foolish to a whole host of people.  Are they
all the stalkers?  Is everyone who points out that you did something stupid
stalking you?  How do you come up with your stalker candidate lists?

>>Your earlier post was not only off topic, but it was abusive (calling unnamed
>>people on the forum immature kids, telling them to grow up, and making penis
>>size references is hardly nice, let alone the other trash in that message).
>
>I'd like to know which line is in reference to penis size?  Frankly if you feel
>that was included it appears you have some problems with this and that is a
>sensitive issue for you, but I never mentioned that.  Yes the letter might have
>been offense.  I had just been stalked!  Its called a knee jerk reaction.  I was
>angry and felt my privacy had been violated.  In part because this forum posts
>the name given in the sign up form and not someones login name.  That is very
>odd I have never seen a forum that chooses to post real names rather than
>someone's chosen login name.
I have now come to the opinion that pseudonyms should not be allowed at all.  I
don't know that it can be enforced, but it has caused enough trouble that I
think they should be done away with.

>I will appologize for that offensive letter, but I had every reason to be mad,
>and I don't like the way you are telling me to grow up.
If the shoe fits, then wear it.

>Stalking is a federal
>offense and while it is not an offense on the internet it can have the same
>reaction to the victim.
And your point is?  Neither KD, BM, nor DC was stalking you.  For crying out
loud.

> I think you need to handle the matter more seriously.
>Only you and the stalker seem to think that this is no big deal.  I don't find
>any of this funny!
It sure sounds like a troll.  I find it very difficult to believe that you
really think CCC moderators have nothing better to do than follow you around and
make trouble.  That would be an infantile waste of time if there ever was one.

>>When you signed up for this forum, you agreed to not be abusive, to not post >off topic, and to abide by the moderators decisions. But, here you are, not >only posting yet another off topic post, but you are now complaining about the
>>decision of a moderator.
>
>I sure did agree to those things, but I never agreed to letting you use the name
>I had given you, also I never agreed to be stalked.  This is something that
>upset me so greatly that I decided to react to it.  I already appologized for
>that offense, but I would like to see an appology from my stalker for making a
>sick joke.  And I would like to see some fine print where I authorized the use
>of the name I gave you during sign up.

I have no idea what you are going on about here.  What are you talking about?

>>And you are now calling my action "cowardice" of telling you to grow up in an
>>Email. At least I did it privately and not here in public like you did.
>
>yes I addressed this in public because it is not a problem I have with obne
>individual of whom I can email.  I also thought that the rest of the room should
>be aware of the actions you took as a moderator.  Insulting a person who feels
>victimized and was obviously biligerent with anger is something I call
>cowardice.

I call it telling you to behave yourself.  Difference of opinion, I suppose.

>
>>PS. Post 86691 was a request by you to not delete post 86690 in order to make
>>sure someone else had enough time to read post 86690. You knew post 86690 was
>>not allowed, so you asked the moderators to not delete it right away. >Obviously, you are not bothered by the fact that the post was deleted. If you >want to send this type of garbage to someone via Email, that is your business. >It's the moderators business when you attempt to do it here on this forum.

?? Parse error ??

>What?  Sorry but unlike you I don't see any point in your response here.



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