Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 22:10:56 01/10/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 00:55:09, allan johnson wrote:
>On January 10, 2000 at 17:16:16, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 10, 2000 at 17:01:32, Lonnie Cook wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>Bob,
>>>I pretty agree with your assessment of GK not wanting to play BUT GK is the one
>>>who wanted a rematch. He has mentioned it numerous X's
>>
>>When IBM was connected, then you could be sure of (at least) massive publicity.
>>I think it would be very nice if someone would back Hsu and create a monster
>>machine. But it would be a lot of money and a big risk. Maybe one of those 32
>>CPU Compaq's?
>>
>>Anyway, Kasparov has good reason to be cautious. A single new chip would be a
>>formidable foe. Imagine a 32 CPU machine where each CPU has access to 32 of
>>Hsu's chips!
>>
>>Better yet, a cluster of 32 of these machines. It would be darn near
>>unbeatable. But it would also be very expensive to program and debug.
>
>Dann
> Would not Kasparov be able to plan to set up positions such as Shebarkov did
>aqainst Rebel in any future matches against a super Deep Blue he might agree to?
>I realise that the position was unusual but I still think this is the difference
>between GMs and computers.After all there is only so much info you can feed into
>a computer.
That is exactly what he should do. Closed positions. Positional moves. Deep
sacrifices. Computers croak on that stuff big time. I think he (Kasparov) got
some really, really bad advice for his rematch.
Worst of all, I think he considered Deep Blue to be a micro program with a big
box around it. He really had no comprehension of how much better 200 Million
NPS is than 200 Thousand NPS. Statments about how {paraphrasing} "computers
will never make a move like that" indicate to me that he prepared by playing
against micros. That is like preparing for Linares by running through a bunch
of games with C club players. Deep Blue will see things that other computers
simply will not see without allowing absurd time intervals. If he allowed the
micros to think for one week per move he might get something commensurate. But
then, the playing experience would not be the same, because he would be
operating at a slow, postal rate and have plenty of time to think through the
possibilities.
His oddball tangential opening variations to get the computer out of book
actually were a good idea -- or would have been if the novelties were actually
superior to alternatives. But at 40/2 time controls, Deep Blue will still make
very, very solid moves from unknown positions on a somewhat clogged board.
I think he would do very well if he could play five hundred games against Deep
Blue, after reading some *accurate* material on anti-computer chess. Then, he
would be able to exploit his new knowlege effectively.
However, even at that, the most miniscule slip-up against Deep Blue would
certainly be fatal. And if IBM (or similar sponsor) used Hsu's updated chips
and the best technology available, they might be able to create something with
billions of nodes per second. Furthermore, 6 men tablebase file construction
would be like falling off of a log for IBM. They are well known for excellence
in storage technology.
So even with proper training and the ability to exploit every weakness of the
machine, I really don't have any idea who might win. But I think it would be
the most exciting match ever. Too bad it probably won't happen.
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