Author: KarinsDad
Date: 22:22:56 01/10/00
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On January 10, 2000 at 20:21:28, david ballard wrote: >>1) You have no rights here. You, me, and everyone else only has privilege here >>(except Steve). > >alright then privilages it is. > >>2) Please tell us who is running this forum as opposed to yet another example >of unsubstantiated claims and unspecified individuals. Nobody "runs" this >forum and does as they please. There are moderators who try to minimize the >nonsense, but that is why it is called a "moderated forum". If you do not like >moderation, fine, go to r.g.c.c. and leave the people who are interested in on > topic discussions here alone. > >A moderator has great influence over the content of what is posted. You are >underestimating the power in deleting threads and banning users. Moderators >have the ability to make someone's voice unheard by deleting their threads. >Sorry that I don't know your names, but I have not cared to much to learn them. > What you are effectively saying here is that the moderators have the ability to moderate content. This is true. Everyone agrees that this is the case when they sign up. You included. Me included. But you are inferring that the current moderators are abusing that ability. I disagree and I think a lot of people would disagree. This is easy to illustrate. For one, anyone can filter the messages from the last week by author and see that all of your posts have nothing to do with computer chess. Every single one of them is about either this alleged stalker or about potential insults to you from unnamed sources or an insult to you from me. I think thou dost protest too much. Of your posts within the last week, I deleted 2 out of the 8 or so posts you made. I could have deleted them all since they were all off topic, but I only got rid of the post which was extremely over the line (and the follow up post asking us to not delete the first one). In fact, those are the only 2 posts I have gotten rid of in about 4 weeks or so. In the 6+ months I have been doing this, I have only deleted about 3 threads and about 6 or so other posts. So, it is easy to show that the moderators are just responding to what either appears to be paranoia or the intent to cause trouble on your part. Regardless of the reason, please take to heart that we are not out to get you and are merely asking you to desist. >>3) Yes, and after this post of yours here today, I would ask you to grow up yet >>again. Learn to live with it as opposed to attempting a >>flaming thread yet again. > >I tried to bring this subject into the open so that I may see if others are >having problems of the same nature. I am glad I did this and I would do it >again. Apparently their is someone who loves to make trouble and they are based >around the ccc news forum. At the moment, the only person here who appears to be making trouble is yourself. We have gotten a few complaints about your posts, I responded to 2 of the 3 posts that have been complained about with a moderation post and 1 of the 3 posts that have been complained about with deletion. I don't know who that is so I am not accusing one >named individual, but it was awfully suspicious that I was stalked then >privately insulted. Honestly. None of the moderators is out to get you. Post on topic messages which do not jab at anyone or break any of the other rules and you wouldn't be getting responses from the moderators. Do you really think we have nothing better to do than to ask you to desist? > >>Your earlier post was not only off topic, but it was abusive (calling unnamed >>people on the forum immature kids, telling them to grow up, and making penis >>size references is hardly nice, let alone the other trash in that message). > >I'd like to know which line is in reference to penis size? I will not repost it, but both Bruce and myself got the inference, hence, I would suggest you reread the message. In and of itself, it was a mild reference. But within the contents of that message, it was just one more straw on the camels back. Frankly if you feel >that was included it appears you have some problems with this and that is a >sensitive issue for you, but I never mentioned that. Yes the letter might have >been offense. I had just been stalked! Its called a knee jerk reaction. I was >angry and felt my privacy had been violated. In part because this forum posts >the name given in the sign up form and not someones login name. That is very >odd I have never seen a forum that chooses to post real names rather than >someone's chosen login name. > >I will appologize for that offensive letter, but I had every reason to be mad, >and I don't like the way you are telling me to grow up. Thank you for the apology. I too will apologize for telling you to grow up, but understand that you have been here for a very short time and we have had complaints about three of your messages so far. That is not a good track record. In the future, I would suggest that you ignore this stalking twit and not take your anger out here in this forum. Stalking is a federal >offense and while it is not an offense on the internet it can have the same >reaction to the victim. I think you need to handle the matter more seriously. >Only you and the stalker seem to think that this is no big deal. I don't find >any of this funny! > >>When you signed up for this forum, you agreed to not be abusive, to not post >off topic, and to abide by the moderators decisions. But, here you are, not >only posting yet another off topic post, but you are now complaining about the >>decision of a moderator. > >I sure did agree to those things, but I never agreed to letting you use the name >I had given you, also I never agreed to be stalked. This is something that >upset me so greatly that I decided to react to it. I already appologized for >that offense, but I would like to see an appology from my stalker for making a >sick joke. It is not within our power to get others to apologize. It is not within the list of our duties to find out what happened to you. You have brought the matter here up on this forum although it does not belong here and we have responded in kind. That's the long and short of it. We cannot help you in this matter, but can merely ask that you do not post your knee jerk reactions and your unsubstantiated accusations here. Talk about computer chess for a change. And I would like to see some fine print where I authorized the use >of the name I gave you during sign up. You did not give that information to me. You gave it to ICD. The sign up form DOES indicate that this will be the name that shows up here in the forum (hence one of the reasons I picked KarinsDad). > >>And you are now calling my action "cowardice" of telling you to grow up in an >>Email. At least I did it privately and not here in public like you did. > >yes I addressed this in public because it is not a problem I have with obne >individual of whom I can email. I also thought that the rest of the room should >be aware of the actions you took as a moderator. Insulting a person who feels >victimized and was obviously biligerent with anger is something I call >cowardice. That was not my intent. My intent was that what was good for the goose, was good for the gander. Obviously, you took it too personally. I do not know you from Adam, but when you tell us to grow up, we too can have "knee jerk" reactions to respond in kind. > > >>PS. Post 86691 was a request by you to not delete post 86690 in order to make >>sure someone else had enough time to read post 86690. You knew post 86690 was >>not allowed, so you asked the moderators to not delete it right away. >Obviously, you are not bothered by the fact that the post was deleted. If you >want to send this type of garbage to someone via Email, that is your business. >It's the moderators business when you attempt to do it here on this forum. > >What? Sorry but unlike you I don't see any point in your response here. The point was merely that you knew that post 86690 was offensive since you asked the moderators in follow up post 86691 to not delete it. That's all. Hopefully, you will put this behind you and get back to reading the messages here and possibly adding some on topic messages of your own. KarinsDad :)
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