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Subject: Re: Rebel upgrade prices are less friendly than other well known companies

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 11:42:40 01/11/00

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On January 11, 2000 at 13:03:15, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote:

>That's write, er, I mean, Right!, and that's what I'm waiting for.  I think its
>ridiculoulos, that a company keeps making offers on an upgrade price of their
>product, then calls it something else, and/or makes some other product that is
>very simular, but decides that its enough different that they won't give their
>most loyal customers a price break on it.  Too loosely paraphrase Lincoln, 'You
>can fool some of the chess software buyer's some of the time, and all of the
>chess software buyer's  some the time, but you can't fool all of us chess
>software buyer's all of the time:).


That is unfair, Lawrence.

The offer about the Rebel for Windows version has been made months before we
decided to release Rebel-Tiger, which is a TOTALLY DIFFERENT PRODUCT. The
Rebel-Tiger is definitely not an update of Rebel.

Please understand that this is not Rebel's engine at all. I have worked hard to
write this engine. Lex has worked hard on the Windows GUI, which is NOT Rebel's
DOS GUI.

While it is OK for Ed to offer a special price for an upgrade (because less work
is involved in an update than in a new product), I would find unfair that the
Rebel-Tiger is offered for the same price.


    Christophe



>  As an example, I consider myself a very
>loyal supporter of the chess software companies - I have bought the upgrades of
>many of them religiously (from 3 or 4 different companies), for many years.
>When I buy from Chess Base, I always recieve an upgrade (or previous version),
>price on their chess programs, even if the name is something else.  Junior6 cost
>less, because I've bought Fritz6, for example.  Anyway, I will continue to hope
>that the Rebel company will do well, even though I must tell you, they have lost
>me as one of their (more) loyal customers, who has bought the upgrades &
>successer versions of their product over the many years...
>
>I say again, Oh well, and perhaps its time for me to focus only on Chess Base
>products alone, to save money, hard disk space, and the need for philosophic
>self-debates...
>
>Larry T.
>
>
>
>On January 11, 2000 at 12:22:46, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On January 11, 2000 at 11:56:22, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Larry,
>>>
>>>
>>>You are totally correct sir.   You would of course charge as much as the market
>>>would bear if you were the programmer.  I too grumble at paying top dollar but
>>>then I remember when MChess cost us $149.00 from ICD--and we gladly paid it.
>>>
>>>You are probably like me (you play chess a hell of a lot better than me however)
>>>and will buy Christophes' program because it is one of the best out there.
>>>
>>>You could of course donate a used Pentium III 500Mhz to Mr. Theron and he will
>>>probably give you a couple or more "free" copies of Chess Tiger.
>>>
>>>Seriously, Mr. Schroder is an astute businessman and knows that companies that
>>>give away products do not survive.  Just look at AOL as an example.  They "give
>>>away" free browsers and then charge $19.95 per month for  full time internet
>>>time.  Sounds a bit like Rebel-Decade, don't it..?
>>>
>>>Respectfully,
>>>
>>>TJ Frohlick
>>
>>I could be wrong, but I seem to recall an upgrade to a windows version
>>also being offered to Rebel 10 customers when it first came out.
>>If I am wrong---I apologize in advance.
>>Thanks.



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