Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 19:18:16 01/11/00
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On January 11, 2000 at 18:39:43, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 11, 2000 at 18:14:46, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On January 11, 2000 at 16:11:54, Amir Ban wrote: >>[snip] >>>Don't be silly. That's the end position of DB-GK game 2. Deep Blue didn't see >>>the draw, and actually made the mistake of walking into this position. People >>>found the draw half an hour after the game and used micros to verify it. >>Not at all unlikely that I am wrong about all of them. >> >>At any rate, there was a thread titled "DB vs Kasparov Game 2 35. axb5" which >>had computers running for days on end. I see that you were a contributor. The >>other thread authors were: >> >>Blass Uri >>Bruce Moreland >>Dan Homan >>Dave Gomboc >>Ernst A. Heinz >>Ernst Walet >>Eugene Nalimov >>Graham Laight >>James Robertson >>Jeremiah Pennery >>Mark Young >>Michael Cummings >>Peter McKenzie >>Robert Hyatt >>Scott Shepherd >>Vincent Diepeveen >>Will Singleton >> >>I have put all relevant messages into a zip file on my ftp directory: >>ftp://38.168.214.175/pub/AXB5.ZIP >> >>for any who might be interested. You seem to have had some special insight on >>this position, and even had access to the printouts. >> >>Is this position reproducable by PC's? > > >No.. and that was a key point. Kasparov expected Qb6 which he thought won a >pawn. DB failed low on that (apparently to near draw-score) and went for >something else. When other programs couldn't produce this he was enraged. That's interesting but not terribly conclusive. It seems to have more understanding in that position than micros but it's hard to tell for sure or if it means anything if it does. I would rather see something like one of the Nolot positions, where the program plays an anti-positional or apparently tactically losing shot that turns out to win heavy material. bruce
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